Talk:Grammy Award for Best New Artist
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[edit]The current format matches all the (many) other Grammy pages, and also complies with the Manual of Style guideline that year links should not be misleading. [[1972]] should lead to the article on 1972, not ever to "Grammy Awards of 1972"-- sannse (talk) 23:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism on this page --- take it away!!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaigyo (talk • contribs) 03:16, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
"Somebody needs to verify the list. Blink 182 did not ever win Best New Artist. Are you kidding me? C'mon Wikipedia, Shelby Lynne won in 2001 for the year 2000. Get your facts right!"
EXCUSE ME!!! How can "Lana del Ray" be the winner of 2013!?!?!? PLEASE EDIT!!!
"One of the worst hits made by the curse was to pop-goth band Evanescence when after winning the award two of the three original members left, the lead singers relationship broke up, the lead singer was sexually assulted, the lead singer was sued, the new lead guitarist suffered a stroke and the album suffered a delay from the originally planned release date of January 2004 to October 2006"
- That curse is a load of crap! Toni braxton, Sheryl Crow, CHRISTINA AGUILERA, norah Jones, LeAnn Rhymes, ALICIA KEYS, Maroon 5, Carrie Underwood, The Beatles
Not to mention that Evanescence were not affected by "the curse" at all. Their second album, the Open Door debuted at #1 in six countries and has sold 5 million copies worldwide. While that is only a third of the album sales Fallen has achieved, it is still pretty good considering how record sales are these days. And as for the personal drama that surrounds the band, please, they are hardly the first band this has happened to. Guns N Roses has had numerous lineup changes, the lead singer's had two failed relationships amid allegations of domestic abuse, he is no stranger to lawsuits at all, and Chinese Democracy is probably the most delayed album in the history of music. GNR have yet to win a single Grammy, much less in a certain category that could cause people to say that they are cursed. So that "curse" thing is total bull. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.90.68 (talk) 07:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Um.. what? Is this uncited information relevant to the main topic of the article? *g* --213.42.2.26 11:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Toni Braxton has repeated her initial success? Poor example there.
This page should also discuss or explain the definition of NEW for this award (not previously awarded a Grammy, never recorded before, or what does new mean?). XB77 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.26.73 (talk) 16:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
LeAnn Rimes is listed as being the first country artist to win the award, even though Bobbie Gentry, a female country artist, won back in 1968? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.215.218.75 (talk) 07:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
This error stood out, so I corrected it. Bobbie Gentry was indeed the first country artist to win Best New Artist. Will she ever get the respect she deserves? Gentry is a helluva lot better than this current crop of country crooners peddling their godawful "new country" pap. Kinkyturnip (talk) 21:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Using the year the awards were presented is wrong. Years should be for the year of the work. Ex: Amy Winehouse won for best new artist for the work she did in 2007. Any other reference source used the correct year. Also, the early 1960s were totally screwed up -- Ward Swingle did not get an award in 1963 and you totally skipped Bob Newhart. These have now been fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.161.136.110 (talk) 15:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, sweetheart. The eligibility year is (or is supposed to be, but they always break their own rules) from October 1 to September 30 of the next year. So the Grammies presented in 2008 were for recordings from October 2006 through September 2007. And Back to Black was in fact released in October 2006.--Maaladeisia (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Lady Gaga
[edit]Okay,I know Lady Gaga didn't get this award but there are a lot of articles about the award rule that had to be change after she doesn't qualified for the year after she entered the industry. I think it's pretty important to put a little article about that as it's like a phenomenon how an artist can affect on Grammy rule. I know you maybe said that "It's only Lady Gaga..who cares" but to me, for an award like this to change its eligibility because of an artist, I think it's pretty important to include a small article about it in this section. This also reported by a lots of reliable source so I'm not joking or lying. http://www.google.com.my/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=lady+gaga+best+new+artist+grammy+rule+change — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syukri Abd Rahman (talk • contribs) 04:49, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Curse?
[edit]I don't see how there can be much of a curse associated with an award for best new artist won by the Beatles and Mariah Carey, two of the most successful recordings artists in history. Several others have also had pretty sustained success - perhaps some of the others. Perhaps the fact that many of these bands were not successful might be due to the fact that they were terrible one or two hit wonders. The "curse" merely demonstrates that the academy isn't very good at figuring out what groups are actually likely to have sustained success when they give out these awards. Starland Vocal Band was a literal one hit wonder - they had no other singles reach the top 40 and their album only reached #20. The fact that they won the award (after their follow up singles had already bombed!) and then had no further success shows that the Academy has awful judgment, not that it cursed them. I think that, at the very least, the existence of very successful artists who've won the award (like the Beatles and Carey) ought to be highlighted in this article's currently uncritical discussion of the "curse". john k (talk) 22:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]@Doc Strange: I noticed your recent edit summary. Actually, I did not mean to remove images. I was attempting to remove the subsections by decade. The Grammy lists which have been promoted to Featured list status (such as Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album) do not have separate tables for each decade, so today I attempted to make many other Grammy lists consistent in this way. Sorry for any confusion. Not sure if you have any interest in making the list more consistent with the FL Grammy lists (which have a single sortable table with a column of images)? ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:27, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Very well. It was a little difficult to parse out what was going on there, but thank you for clearing it up. I get what you're doing now, and I mostly agree with the change. But my biggest issue with your edit here is how the table columns change starting in 1990. Having a whole box for a small photo, and then pushing all the actual information in the row to the right seems a little strange to me. Maybe would could move the photos out of the table and onto the sides instead?
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