Talk:Greyhound Lines/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: StudiesWorld (talk · contribs) 00:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Criteria

Good Article Status - Review Criteria

Further information: WP:WIAGA

A good article is—

Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.^[1]

Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);^[2] and

(c) it contains no original research.

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;^[3] and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

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Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

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(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.^[6]

Review

Well-written:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (prose)	This article is legal and is accurate in respect to spelling and grammar.	Pass
(b) (MoS)	This article is in compliance with all appropriate sections of the Wikipedia MoS.	Pass

Verifiable with no original research:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (references)	This article has a full list of all references in the article which follows the proper format.	Pass
(b) (citations to reliable sources)	The article has been adequately sourced.	Pass
(c) (original research)	This article does not appear to include any original research.	Pass

Broad in its coverage:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (major aspects)	This article covers all major aspects of the Greyhound Lines company.	Pass
(b) (focused)	This article is on the edge of being too broad and while it is not too broad yet steps should be taken to focus the article.	Pass

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Notes	Result
This article does not appear to have a bias or any other form of non-neutral point of view.	Pass

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Notes	Result
While this article is still undergoing some minor edits, it appears that there are no ongoing edit wars or content disputes and no major content swings.	Pass

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales)	All images are used in compliance with the law and Wikipedia policies.	Pass
(b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)	All images are used appropriately and include suitable captions..	Pass

Result

Result	Notes
Pass	Passed.

Discussion

Please add any related discussion here.

I'm working to repair as many references as I can, but as I told StudiesWorld on their talk page, I'm having a tough time determining which ones they were referring to in the list above. For example a link to the Greyhound Bus Museum is called #7, but Wikipedia has that listed as reference #8. It would help if the list of problems with the first few words the problem reference. --RickyCourtney (talk) 15:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

StudiesWorld, RickyCourtney, where does this stand now? It's been nineteen days since the above post. I do see that StudiesWorld has only edited on Wikipedia once since June 30 (a couple of days ago); does this mean we should find a new reviewer to finish this review? BlueMoonset (talk) 20:48, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am awaiting RickyCourtney's fix. Also I used the numbering from here.

Apologies for the delay. I've been moving into a new apartment... so I've been very busy in the real world. I'll work on the fixes this week. Thank you for the numbering link StudiesWorld, that will be a big help. --RickyCourtney (talk) 14:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bystander comment: Please correct the following reference, which I have removed at this time, as its URL causes the reader's browser to try to print the webpage: {{cite web|url=http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/115010102084450.xml&coll=2 |title=Cleveland.com's Printer-Friendly Page |work=Cleveland.com |accessdate=2013-09-21}} Prhartcom (talk) 19:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing comments:

two of the Notable incidents and accidents are unsourced; if they're notable (and one involves the "largest loss of life" on a single Greyhound bus, which in and of itself needs a source), there should be reliable sourcing available
the In popular culture section is inadequately sourced: half of the Films don't have sources, and the vast majority of Songs are also unsourced. If they're notable enough to include here, they're notable enough to have reliable secondary sourcing

—BlueMoonset (talk) 17:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So at this point I think I have fixed as many of the references as possible, adding necessary citations and fixing broken links. In regards to the primary source citations that remain, they're compliant with Wikipedia policy as they support a fact and not the intreperation of a fact. The only section that's still yet to be fully addressed is the "In Popular Culture." I'm not familar with most of the works listed, should I find links to support the fact that the artist mentioned Greyhound in the work or does the citation need to support that that work is influential in promoting Greyhound in Popular Culture. --RickyCourtney (talk) 02:08, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@StudiesWorld: Thoughts? --RickyCourtney (talk) 01:34, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RickyCourtney, StudiesWorld hasn't edited on Wikipedia since August 21, over five weeks ago. It may be time to try to find someone to take over the review. You might want to request just that at WT:GAN—as this is the longest-running review (approaching four months) and the oldest nomination by far (well over eight months, as compared to barely six), I hope that someone would be willing to take it on if you ask. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:48, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BlueMoonset, thanks for the suggestion. This is the first article I've submitted for GA and it hasn't gone at all as expected. Before I bother someone over at GAN, could I trouble you to weigh in with your thoughts on citations for the In Popular Culture section? Thanks! --RickyCourtney (talk) 15:35, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RickyCourtney, you'll need to have a citation for every entry included. (It's especially bad when there isn't a citation in an entry with a quoted lyric; all quotes in articles need to be cited by the end of the sentence where the quote concludes.) Also, you'll want to rethink the categories: there's a television mini-series in the Film section, and a musical in the Song section. Whether this means you need some sort of "Other" category to handle these two, or to revise the section headers to be more inclusive, I'll let you decide. Your eventual new reviewer will decide the rest. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:18, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Additional notes

^ Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.
^ Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.
^ This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.
^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.
^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

[1] Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.

[2] Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.

[3] This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.

[4] Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.

[5] Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.

[6] The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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