Talk:HNoMS Sæl

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Did you know... that the 1901 Royal Norwegian Navy torpedo boat HNoMS Sæl was sunk by three German Schnellboots in 1940?

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Some issues

The image caption says "pre-war". Which war?
Are you sure about the translation of Sæl? Sæl is also a (somewhat archaic) word meaning happy. [1]

Punkmorten (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1. Sorry bout that, I meant pre-WWII. In Norway, WWII is THE war. When we say "the war", its always WWII. My bad, I'll fix it.

2. Yep. I'm 100% sure of the translation. How? Here's some of the other names in the 1. class: , Hval (Whale), Delfin (Dolphin), Hai (Shark), Laks (Salmon), Sild (Herring) and Skrei (a type of codfish). Skrei was built the same year as Sæl. Why would they trow a Happy into that mix? Manxruler (talk) 20:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only non-sea creature names in class are 1898-launched Storm (Storm), Brand (modern spelling Brann = Fire) and Trods (modern spelling Tross = Spite). Manxruler (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for the spelling difference is that back in first years of the 20th century Bokmål Norwegian was very close to Danish and Danish for seal is sæl. You read Norwegian, have a look at the Riksmål article on Norwegian Wikipedia. Remember that Sæl got her name prior to the 1917 language reform. See how the 1917 reform changed a lot of words from being spelled with æ to being spelled with e. Manxruler (talk) 20:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Penultimate" means "second to last". Didn't you mean "ultimate"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.98.144.141 (talk) 01:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. I know the meaning of penultimate. Manxruler (talk) 01:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Position of guns

I don't understand the sentence: "The 37 mm armament was placed one on each side of the ship, making it impossible to bring both of her guns to bear on one target unless she exposed her broadside." If the guns are on opposite sides, wouldn't she have to point her bow or stern at the target to bring both to bear? PKKloeppel (talk) 03:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I might have misunderstood the source, the exact quote is "...two 37 mm guns mounted one on each side of the vessel so only one of them could be used to fire over the same bow...". Help me out on that one? Manxruler (talk) 19:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having reread the book I cited and then another book, as well as studied numerous images of 1. class torpedo boats, I have come to the conclusion that you're right, Peter. The guns were mounted on the port and starboard sides of the ship. They're are not bow and aft mounted, they're mounted on the sides of the ship. My bad, I apologise. I'll go fix the text right away. Manxruler (talk) 02:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further studies of the book shows that what they mean is that she could only fire at a target with one gun at the time, due to their positioning. The book says that she "opened fire with the one gun that could bear". Manxruler (talk) 02:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing that up. With that out of the way, I have no qualms about its B-class status. PKKloeppel (talk) 12:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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