Talk:Hair Peace Salon

This article was nominated for deletion on 6 December 2018. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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About recents cuts

Recent Hair Peace Salon cuts were made by a single person, highlighted “not trusted sources” like band’s website, label’s pieces, TV appearances on the CTV channel, Tuzin.fm (this one was actually pointed up in the deletion discussion as a reliable music portal), European Radio for Belarus, and more in comments as minor edits are not worth a discussion upon them on the talk page here to gain consensus while the sources of such kind are actively used in the similar Nickelback, Motörhead (Roadrunner Records and band' websites) articles, for example. ¯\_(°ヮ°)_/¯

These deleted pieces are going to be pretty acceptable with no complains, just take a look at this page on the Belarusian Wikipedia (https://be.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hair_Peace_Salon&stable=1) to compare them to the original version.

There are not many editors from the Belarusian Wikipedia who can step up and speak up in fluent English to participate in various discussions across the English Wikipedia which already has many co-workers. Otherwise, their number could let me bring up more opinions from who is native in Belarusian and Russian. Pr12402 | January 7, 2018

Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hair Peace Salon, the community has decided that this article is preposterously long and uses a lot of trivial sources to support tiny factoids that are of no interest to the general reader. There is no reason for this article to be longer than, and to use more sources than, the article for the band's hero John Lennon. The article is going to be cut back significantly, and a look at articles about any other band of Hair Peace Salon's stature will show that they deserve a few paragraphs with a few dozen reliable sources, at most. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Doomsdayer520, it's pretty sad that you have not touched the direct comparisons between the Hair Peace Salon, Nickelback, Motörhead bands highlighted above at all– Single artists and bands pages are not the same to refer to. Obviously, John Lennon's page is pretty the same size as Hair Peace Salon's one (where a lot of bytes is used to additionally translate Cyrillic references into English), but if we would combine all the articles where huge John Lennon's presence is (solo and his band's albums, singles, and compilations, TV and films roles, books, etc.), it may result to a ratio circa 100:1 to the GOAT, while the potential of splitting Hair Peace Salon's one into sub-articles, from my perspective, is very limited. But even using double standards from Pandora's box you have opened, taking a look at John Lennon's page on the Belarusian Wikipedia (https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/Джон_Ленан), any other musical article should be not more than 2 paragraphs long. Thank you for writing your take too! (◕‿◕✿) -- Pr12402 | January 8, 2018

Nice try but you're avoiding the issues that everybody other than you brought up in the deletion discussion. And if you look at that you might find that I voted to keep the article on Hair Peace Salon. But the article is unreadable in its current state, no matter how big you think it deserves to be. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 13:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Horrible article. Too long, too many trivial details, insane ref bombing. TNT to stub like state would be a great improvement. Pavlor (talk) 10:35, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Post-Britpop

Hair Peace Salon should not be put in the "Post-Britpop groups" category nor have as a genre in their Infobox. The band are from Belarus, meaning they don't qualify as being post-Britpop. Post-Britpop should only qualify for British alternative bands starting from the year 1998 and beyond until the late 2000s that have an earnest, "light rock" sound to them, such as Travis, Elbow and Embrace. Dean12065 (talk) 13:25, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

According to the deletion discussion taken place on Hair Peace Salon, experty.by is a part of the scope of "such authoritative sources in the field of Belarusian music" that "you should rely on," which would make the question about the recent edits by Dean12065 a question of his/her distinction of music genres and, as a result, of the value of this music portal. Please read more about it (in Russian or Belarusian): https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experty.by / https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experty.by This Is Where I Came In (talk) 18:24, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a bit like your argument that Britpop can only be created by British bands, I'm afraid you are mistaken! Rob van vee 20:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Citekill

Hi Folks, I have removed a huge no of references, more than 100 I think but the remaining refs are still to be checked for Non-RS blogs of which there seem to be still a lot in there. scope_creep^Talk 12:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you and will support your efforts in the event of reverts or other shenanigans by the ONE person who thinks this article needs 300+ references to support tidbits of non-notable information. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 22:41, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! Pavlor (talk) 05:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

scope_creep Great job! I removed some of the references as well, but a bit more cleanup is still needed. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Bbarmadillo: Somebody was needing to check the remaining refs for puff, non-rs etc. Good work. scope_creep^Talk 21:36, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]