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Debasement of coinage

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At Papal lira, we have this:

In 1866 Pope Pius IX, whose temporal domain had been reduced to only the province of Latium, decided to join the Latin Monetary Union. A new currency, the lira, was introduced with the same value of the French franc and the Italian lira. It replaced the scudo at a rate of 5.375 lire = 1 scudo : the rate was calculated thanks to the silver value of the old scudo (26.9 grams of 0.900 fine silver[citation needed]) and the new lira (5 grams of 0.835 fine silver).[1] However, the Pope's treasurer, Giacomo Antonelli, devalued the purity of the Papal silver coins from 900/1000 to 835/1000,[citation needed] causing big problems for the Union, which later was forced to adopt the new standard.[citation needed]

The chronology is very confused. When was the silver coinage debased (from .900 to .835)? At the time of joining the LMU (and adopting the lira) or later. The lack of citations makes it impossible to resolve without doing a lot of searching in sources, which really needs an editor with very high proficiency in legal Italian, I assume. If anyone can help, please revise the Papal lira article accordingly. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:49, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LMU article says that it was after having become a member. But no dates there either. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Pinchera, S (a cura di) (1957). Monete e zecche nello stato pontificio dalla restaurazione al 1870 [Coins and mints in the papal state from the restoration to 1870]. Archivio economico dell’unificazione italiana. Vol. V, fasc. 3. Roma.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link) (cited in Rossi, Marinella (2013). La borsa di Roma dal 1847 al 1860 [The Rome Stock Exchange from 1847 to 1860] (PDF) (Thesis) (in Italian). Tesionline. p. 1. (first degree thesis))

no simple listing of coins and intervals

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Howard from NYC (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For someone seeking specific coinage units for a given interval (i.e. 1632 to 1637) it is aggravating to be unable to search for 1600s or 1630s... never mind specifically 1632... yes I recognize pre-Unification there was dozens of coins produced by dozens of city-states but that why I turn to a curated resource such as this article... BTW this would be useful for just about every nation-state and/or currency... and I have no clue where to start the research...