Talk:Husein Gradaščević

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"The two sides met at Pirot, on the outskirts of Travnik"? Is there a place Pirot near Travnik, or they met at the city that is today in Eastern Serbia? Guessing the first option I removed the wiki-link to the city of Pirot. 78.142.40.51 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC).

older entries

User:Live Forever, please don't censor existing content in preparation for some new one. --Joy [shallot] 22:53, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry. However, if you give me a day all prior content will be incorporated in a larger whole article. Live Forever 00:20, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Any chance of IPA for pronunciation (and an ogg from a native would be an added bonus) of the name? I feel bad when confronted by lots of diacritics that I have no idea of the meaning of. --zippedmartin 23:02, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Is there any way to freeze this article from editing for just this day. Somebody (from Canada) already edited it to "china rules"? - 85.92.241.210 6:41, 28 October 2005 (CET)

no. FAs of the day get a lot of vandalism, but also a lot of scrutiny, which is a good thing. You'll just have to roll back the vandalism as it comes in. 130.60.142.65 08:04, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

See user:Raul654/protection →Raul654 16:11, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

A quotation

I have some info that you could add here:

"Husein led a 52,000 strong Army when marched to Peć.

While the Bosnians were liberating the city, a song was sang:

We're going on plain Kosovo;

Where our Olds lost their heads;

Old glory of our grandfathers;

We too will on Kosovo Polje;

Either lose faith in courage;

Or if Allah gives;

Our enemy defeat;

and to Bosnia in full glory return."

Because Husein is a well documented historical figure I tried to abide to strict facts in the article. Otherwise I would have put songs concerning his childhood and birth in there as well. Thats one reason why I'm not sure this would fit. Another is that this also sounds a bit like national romanticism to me, since I doubt Gradascevic cared much for the original battle of Kosovo. Out of curiosity, what is the source for this song? Live Forever 20:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

It is the History of the Slavic nations from 1912. Husein did not really care about Kosovo; but he was a true Slavic patriot; he considered all ex yugoslavs (except for the Slovenians) as members of one big nation; that'll soon be headed by him. His ambitions reached a vast Slavic realm under "three crowns" - Islamo-Bosniak, Serbo-Orthodox and Roman-Catholic. Anyway, if you're really reluctant on the song, the 52k is useful, no? --HolyRomanEmperor 19:52, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Six districts

In a move that outraged Bosniaks and launched numerous protests, newly autonomous Serbia was also given six districts (Bosnian: nahijas) that had traditionally belonged to Bosnia.

According to A.Jelačić those provinces were taken away from Serbian in 1813. It’s difficult to say that all of them traditionally belonged to Bosnia, especially after checking the map The rivers Timok and Juzna Morava are too far from Bosnia. However, those 6 provinces were not included in Sultan’s hatisherif in 1830. They were granted after the uprisnig was defeted, in second hatisherif (1833). According to A.Jelacic, it was Gradascevic’s rebellion that helped Milos Obrenovic to take those districts by force.--N Jordan 19:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Valiyet vs. Vilayet

The text says "The uprising itself was only subdued when Ali-paša Rizvanbegović of Stolac defected towards the Mahmud II, in return he was awarded with the succession of Herzegovina, however only as a Valiyet. Valiyet is linked to Vali, a disambiguation page. Should it instead link to Vilayet? This is way outside my area of expertise so if someone who knows this area could fix it if appropriate, that would be great. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 21:32, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

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needs inline citations --plange 21:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

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he was defeated when Serbian rebels arrived and sided with and reinforced the forces of Mahmud II.[3]

i didnt find any other source to prove previous statement than the book that is cited, if there is please add it if there is not the source should be questoned and the statement should be reconsidered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.92.223.18 (talk) 10:33, 22 November 2021 (UTC)