Talk:India national football team at the Olympics/GA2

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 20:58, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Going to review this article. MWright96 (talk) 20:58, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• Wikilink Olympic sport to Olympic sports and Summer Olympics to Summer Olympic Games
• "An Indian team last participated in the 1960 games." - The word "games" should be captalised in this instance
• "India's best showing was at the 1956 Summer Olympics where its team reached the semi-finals." - try to use another more formal word other than "showing"
• "the rules were changed so that only under-23 national teams are allowed to compete in the games." - same issue as the first query in this subsection
• "has yet to qualify for the Olympics football competition." - Olympic

Warm-up

• "The Indian team decided to wear shoes if the conditions were wet (rainy) and if they had to play on soft grounds As conditions were dry," - you don't need to include the brackets and the word rainy
• Also with regards to the sentence mentioned above, a full stop should be inserted after the word "ground" and before the word "As"
• "Of the eleven players who took the field against France eight players were bootless, three wore boots." - barefooted would be better

The match

• Wikilink penalty kick to the appropriate article
• "Vajravelu (a substitute)" - better; substitute B.N. Vajravelu
• " was saved by the French goalkeeper Rouxel." - full names please; Gaston Rouxel

 Fixed all above from Lead. Dey subrata (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Media and appreciation

• "earned them no less a fan than" - more formal; admiration
• " the younger sister of Queen Elizabeth II." - don't think that this is relevant on the whole. Also, Elizabeth was not the queen in 1948.
• "telling him it was just to check if the Indian" - the text in bold here is unencyclopedia. he or the latter would suffice instead
• "the AIFF decided to extend the tour" - spell out the full meaning of the AIFF in full

 Fixed, except second point, need to add that info. cause there are multiple Princess Margaret.Dey subrata (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

1952, 1956, and 1960 Olympics

• The second paragraph should be split into two with the new one beginning with the mention of India failing to reach the final of the 1956 Olympics
• "But four years later, at the 1956 Olympics at Melbourne, India had its best outing at the games - better; Four years later at the 1956 Olympics in Melbourne, India attained its best outing at the Games
• "The team was led by Samar Banerjee and India's most successful coach Syed Abdul Rahim" - a comma is required at the end of this portion of text
• "who coached the team at both the 1952 and 1960 Olympics." - Rahim coaching at the 1952 Olympics is not mentioned by the goal.com source attached to it but it does for the 1960 Olympics. Please find another source that verifies it
• "They got a walkover as Hungary did not participate." - better to avoid WP:LIMITED; The team received a walkover because Hungary did not play.
• Wikilink walkover for those unfamiliar with sports
• "Then in the 33rd minute D'Souza converted a cross from P.K.Banerjee" - it should be P.K. Banerjee
• "D'souza scored the opening goal in the match for India" - D'Souza
• "from a melee between Indian striker Kannayan and Australian goalkeeper Lord." - should be Ron Lord.
• "At 1960 Olympics at Rome," - At the 1960 Olympics in Rome,
• "The team was led by P.K Banerjee" - same issue as the fourth issue in this section
• "In the second match Banerjee's goal at 71st minute" - in the
• "one each in the matches against Hungary and Peru both of which India lost." - add a comma between the words "Peru" and "both"
• "Thanks to two losses and a draw," - more formal With two losses and a draw,
• "This was the last time India qualified for the Olympics in football." - This sentence requires a reliable source to allow the user to independently verify the information

1964–present

• "the qualifying matches of the 1992 Olympics to the 2012 Olympics" - better; every qualifying match from the 1992 to 2012 Olympic Games
• "India has yet to qualify for the AFC U-23 Championship and thus for the Olympics since then." - This sentence will require a reliable source to be placed at the end of it so that it can be verified independently

 Fixed all above from 1952.... to present. Dey subrata (talk) 18:59, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Records

• The paragraph should be divided into two with the new paragraph beginning at the mention of India's participation in the 1960 Olympics
• "and managed one win, one draw, and lost in six other matches" - six of them to avoid reptition of the word "matches" in the same sentence
• "in eight matches by six different teams." - better; six games by six squads.
• Wikilink bye to Bye (sports)
• "as Republic of China and Philippines withdrew from the qualification round." - as the Republic of China and the Philippines teams
• "which India failed to qualify till date, thus failed to qualify for the Olympics too." - more concise; which India failed to progress from.

 Fixed all but except six games by six squads, it will change the meaning and info. as match/games played are eight. Actually I think it should be conceded against. Dey subrata (talk) 19:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Match summary

• "their biggest win in the Olympics' history."- Olympic
• "The most goals were conceded in a 1–10 loss" - better; The most goals the team conceeded were in a 1–10 loss
• "their biggest defeat to date." - can be largest for variety

Reference

• References 5, 6, 7, 38 should include the authors of the respective sources
• Reference 11 should include the page numbers that the information it cites is located and the name of its publisher
• The title in Reference 26 is incomplete
• Reference 43 would benefit if Asian News International was mentioned as the news agency who provided the story to Business Story
• Reference 44 should mention the Press Trust of India is the agency who provided the story to India Today
• All of the newspaper sources, such as The Times of India, The Hindu, Business Standard, The Morung Express, The Economist and India Today, should use the Template:Cite news template instead of the Template:Cite web template

 Fixed all from Match summary. Dey subrata (talk) 19:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Overall there are issues with the grammar and there are a lack of wikilinks of football specific terms that the general audience may not understand. There is also one piece of unverified information and some missing parameters in some of the sources. On hold. MWright96 (talk) 14:44, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

MWright96, I have fixed all concerns, except two of the issues which I have highlighted, one in Media & appreciation and another in Records. The rest looks fine to me. Dey subrata (talk) 19:07, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dey subrata: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 20:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you MWright96. Dey subrata (talk) 20:15, 17 February 2020 (UTC)