Talk:Indian Super League/Archive 1
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Contents of ISL teams table
The current contents of ISL teams table are Location, Stadium, Head coach and Marquee player. I'd thought adding a column for owners will be helpful. (I personally came to this page to find out which ISL team did Sachin buy!) However, it was removed stating that the column is not useful. The individual wiki pages for each of the team does contain the information, (actually I'd sourced the content of the owners column solely from those pages,) however, they also contain all the info in the other columns too. The sole reason of having the table is providing a summary. At least that is what I think. If the owner of a franchisee is not important, do you think coaches and marquee players are? That too complete with their country flag?
Personally, I don't feel very strongly about any of these columns. As long as the data is there in Wikipedia, with evident links from this place, I can dig it out. However, I do feel, we need to rethink on the columns. A summary table is not expected to contain all the information, but at the same time it should contain all the vital ones . . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pushpaksen (talk • contribs) 10:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
- They are just not important in terms of the "on-the-field" aspect. I know this is against wikipedia policy to say this but you don't see owners listed for Premier League etc. They are just not needed. If you wanted to know who Sachin bought then read the history section, which is where it is written anyway. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:20, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Confederation
I noticed an Asian Football Confederation entry on the confederation part of the infobox of Indian Super League.Is Indian Super League recognized by AFC? Can teams from Indian Super League qualify for the AFC cups? If not, should the entry be there? Joshikamal (talk) 13:35, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- That's a good question. India's top-tier league still remains I-League and will participate in AFC competitions. This needs to be verified. This article says ISL has "agreement" with AFC. Coderzombie (talk) 11:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- There is also a separate section for international cups... since the teams in ISL can not play in them that section is not used. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
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I have read this article & I found there is no information about the prize money of Indian Super League. So I decided to add prize money of this competition in this article. For verification, I have also provided a reference link. The addition information (Prize money of Indian Super League) is given below:-
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Prize Money
The total prize money of Indian Super League has been confirmed by ISL board members as Rs.15 crore which is 11 times more than that of I-League. The Prize money is the second only to the Indian Premier League T20 cricket for sports in India. During the announcement of Indian Super League Prize money, a club official said "Each team will at the end of the league matches be given a certain number league points depending on its final position in the league table before the play-off matches for that ISL season, states the ISL rules, a copy of which is with TOI. The ISL is a money-spinner and there is no denying that. The I-league, really is an extremely poor cousin."
- Rs.8 crore - Winner
- Rs. 4 crore - Runners-up
- Rs. 1.5 crore - To each team eliminated in Semi final.
I think it should be included in this article. If you don't think so, you can remove this information. Thank you. Iamniki (talk) 07:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not done Not an official source. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Confederation - AFC?
As is known, India's official league is still I-League. Is it appropriate to say that ISL is affiliated to AFC because it's not official tournament? Coderzombie (talk) 08:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- I am not exactly sure. The league is in Asia and also the AFC president congratulated the AIFF for the launch of the league so take that as you will. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Teams
Add a table below the map which would contain information about home city, home stadium and capacity. Additionally, it could also contain present head coach/manager. AlankarJindal (talk) 15:48, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Level on Pyramid
For all FIFA official purposes, I-League is still India's primary league. Indian Super League (ISL) is considered as a tournament. There is a proposal to make ISL as the primary league, but this is not implemented yet. With the current state of affairs, is it correct to mention that ISL is the Level 1 on pyramid? Shouldn't this article's infobox reflect that it's a tournament and not a league? bijoalex (talk) 19:30, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- Meh, I would just remove the 1 and just leave it as that. It is still a league technically, otherwise players in it would not be allowed to play internationals. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 22:19, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- Precisely my point about the level! Just remove the level number. Thanks for doing it already. bijoalex (talk) 17:13, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
- Technically it's not a league, but a tournament, but recognized by the governing bodies. Players are not allowed to play internationals only if the FA has a recognition issue with the tournament. AIFF president himself has compared it to the likes of Durand Cup and Rovers Cup, which are not leagues by any stretch. I understand that the situation can change based on current proposals, but that's something yet to happen and the article should reflect that when it happens. Not now. bijoalex (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
- That is all media talk from the AIFF. The ISL itself says that it is a league. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:02, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
conclusion
1. merge with I-league.
2. ownership rights to be transparent and free. public shares to be discussed.
3. foreign player signings to be restricted to 2 (playing).
4. number of teams to be limited to ensure interest.
On further matters consult Asian Football.
ASG
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Archiving references
@Gog the Mild: need archiving here. Dey subrata (talk) 23:46, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
The article need to be revamped
@Coderzombie: A lot of unecessary materials being added for last few months and the different sections are not properly maintained. I think the article need to get a good touch, most importantly the lead, its kind of become hotchpotch and need to add the road map of AFC recently annouced in the "Competion format" section. If you can do it please. Rest many table and reference thing need to fix I will do that. Dey subrata (talk) 19:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Cool, will give it a shot. Coderzombie (talk) 16:25, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
League (top or not)
ISL and I-league both are top tier league since 2018. Till 2017 I-league was top tier, not because they are getting berth in the pre-liminary round to qualify for play-offs to again qualify AFC Champions league, but they were getting the AFC cup group stage direct entry for India, and the play-off round for AFC Cup was allocated to Indian Federation Cup winner (not a league). Since 2019 AFC cup, the play-off round allocation was given to 2017–18 Indian Super League season winner, which is a league, both I-league and ISL become the joint top tier. Only thing that changed on 14 October decision is AFC Cup direct entry was given to ISL and the play-off is given to I-league so, both still are top tier, untill and unless, the runners up of ISL instead of I-league champion is given berth of play-off round and if such happens eventually I-league will be called as the second tier league or if ISL getting direct entry to AFC Champions league group stage in future then it can be called as the top tier league. Dey subrata (talk) 18:32, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
AFC road map for India, ISL getting play off in Champions league and I-League getting AFC Cup play-off, so still parallel league. recommendation for 2024-25, the AFC stated: "it is agreed to fully implement promotion and relegation into the top league, and the abolition of two parallel leagues". Thus till 2024, both the top leagues of India. So no one should do any changes in the lead. Dey subrata (talk) 12:30, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
It is officially announced that isl is the top tier league of India Sinan 2004 (talk) 05:36, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Isl league toppers is given the afc champions League group stage spot. So isl is the top tier Sinan 2004 (talk) 05:40, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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Cautions
Hemanth Dx, Sinan 2004, Chindhakan, फ़ुटबॉल, you all have been doing many disruptive edits in various articles, adding poorly sourced, unsourced, POVs and violating various policies. Stop these, and go through the WP:FOOTY, WP:MOS, WP:NPOV, WP:CITE, WP:HOAX along with all other wikipedia guidelines. Next time I will not be so kind, some of you are also ignoring warning. It's a request, go through the guidelines immediately. Dey subrata (talk) 09:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
you doing usless editing go to hell you stupid Chindhakan (talk) 10:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC) you ara not the owner of wikipedia Chindhakan (talk) 10:35, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
- To all of you who is reading, this is what happens who does not want to learn from mistakes, there is always a limit. I hope rest other don't want to adopt the path the above user has choosen. Consequences, which you all will know now. Again telling rest other go through guidelines and policies if still have not. Dey subrata (talk) 15:17, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Winners Shield
Hemanth Dx (talk · contribs), taking this here so we don't violate WP:3RR. I get your point re: the winners shield not being an official thing till this season but we shouldn't make a separate section on the main ISL page just for that. Look at how these things are recorded in A-League, Premier League, or Major League Soccer and compare it to here. All we need is a simple and quick way to show who the ISL champions were and the league winners. The league winners have always been recognized but there has not been an official trophy till this past season, so lets make a note of that within the table I made and be done with it. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:57, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Also, MLS is actually a good example since their version, the Supporters Shield, was not even founded till 1999, three years after the league started. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
East Bengal
I think EB shouldn't not be added now. We should wait till announcement from FSDL/ISL. ❯❯❯ S A H A 18:02, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well, duh! Nothing has been announced. Unless announced by a twitter account with the bird next to their name nothing should be added. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:08, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Isl official website has updated the top goalscorers
Visit indiansuperleague.com/stats to see tge updated list and please update it now
I saw the full live match yesterday Arohan Chatterjee (talk) 12:32, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Organiser
ISL is organised by FSDL, whereas AIFF organises I-League.[1] অর্ণব S a h a 09:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- ^ "Indian Super League to invite bids for new teams - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2019-11-02.
Isl is organized by all India football federation and FSDL Sinan 2004 (talk) 13:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
In the official website of Indian SUPER LEAGUE it is clearly mentioned that league is organised by AIFF, reliance and star Sinan 2004 (talk) 13:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, what happened? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add organisers in the article Sinan 2004 (talk) 21:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
@ArsenalFan700, Sinan 2004, and Poppified: I see quite an edit war has been started between AresenalFan and Sinan on the organizers section, in the last few days. I also see a talk between you two on the same topic back in September 20. So, I propose to talk here before warring. Also, I found this in the ISL website (About ISL):
ABOUT INDIAN SUPER LEAGUE
[...]The league is co-promoted by Reliance, Star India and supported by the All India Football Federation (AIFF)[...]
So, by this sentence, FSDL only promotes, or in other words organizes the league, and AIFF only supports the cause. Therefore, talk here, come to a consensus, then do the final edits, DO NOT WAR. Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 07:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
@Laser Victor 2017 In the official website of ISL it is clearly mentioned that the league organisers are AIFF and FSDL (Reliance and star) check it here 👉(ISL league organisers). Sinan 2004 (talk) 8:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Mate, just drop it. All you need is to just search Indian Super League AIFF organizer on Google to see that it is organized just by FSDL. This shows that IMG-Reliance were the organizers, not AIFF. This literally makes clear who organizes the Indian Super League. This is another source. It is evidently clear who organizes the league here. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:13, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
ArsenalFan700.(ISL league organisers) This is a confirmation from official website that the league organisers are AIFF and FSDL (Reliance and star) so we don't want to search it on google or anywhere. And the sources which you were arguing is not telling anywhere that FSDL is the only organisers and also check this 👉This. Sinan 2004 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- You keep linking that part of the website... really the only part that could state that the AIFF are organizers... but then that section doesn't even say FSDL but also Reliance and Star Sports. That section is both not updated and just inaccurate based on reliable sources. What I linked above are reliable sources... from the Times of India, Scroll.in, the Indian Express. You linked Khel Now, a sports blog which isn't a good source. The sources doesn't even state that the AIFF are organizers but that they helped organize this tournament with FSDL which would make sense since this was a pandemic hit season. This source shows that FSDL are the organizers for the league, that they are the ones in charge of the rules, are in charge of the teams, and in charge of actually planning the league. This from the first season in 2014 states that the league was organized by Reliance and Star (what is now FSDL) with partnership from the AIFF. This from ESPN also states "Then, the apex body had said the ISL organisers, FSDL, will work with the AIFF". In the article, it was also said that the AIFF implemented a 3+1 foreign rule in the I-League... they obviously are not able to do that for the ISL per the article. Hell, even the league website itself says that FSDL are the organizers. Goal.com says it, Telegraph India definitely says it, and onmanorama literally says that FSDL are the organizers with sanctioning of the AIFF. Even Business-Standard has it as FSDL. I mean, it is more than obvious. Even in the About ISL link from User:Laser Victor 2017, it says "The league is co-promoted by Reliance, Star India and supported by the All India Football Federation (AIFF)"... again, both of which is just not updated... this is the same as from 2014. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 05:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- ArsenalFan700.No it is updated it is not the same as from 2014 because the logo of AIFF which is used in it is the the new logo launched in 2016 and the In 2014 the IMG reliance logo is used in it and when the IMG parted ways with Reliance in 2018 the logo is updated to Reliance industries logo. And the FSDL is the Joint venture between Reliance and Star so you cannot say it is not updated. So it is an important information from the official website itself so we want to go with that without looking for Unreliable sources.Sinan 2004 (talk) 07:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't mean the bottom part... which, again, is literally your only defense. I meant the body paragraph for the About Indian Super League page. Also, what unreliable sources? You haven't presented any reason why The Times of India, ESPN, The Indian Express, Scroll.in, Outlook, LiveMint, Goal, Business Standard, The Telegraph, or Malayala Manorama are all "unreliable". All because of a small part at the bottom of the ISL page. It is very, very obvious at this stage who the organizer of this league is BUT, if you are that hellbent on this pointless argument, feel free to bring it to Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Football. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sinan 2004: I see again a war effect in your last edit. Why did you undid ArsenalFan700's edit? ArsenalFan edited the section at least after 3 days from his last talk as you haven't made any statements to object him. So, naturally a consensus is already reached. Please refrain from making random edits to organizers after discussion has ended, or I'll make sure to do WP:AIV against you. Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 05:42, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't mean the bottom part... which, again, is literally your only defense. I meant the body paragraph for the About Indian Super League page. Also, what unreliable sources? You haven't presented any reason why The Times of India, ESPN, The Indian Express, Scroll.in, Outlook, LiveMint, Goal, Business Standard, The Telegraph, or Malayala Manorama are all "unreliable". All because of a small part at the bottom of the ISL page. It is very, very obvious at this stage who the organizer of this league is BUT, if you are that hellbent on this pointless argument, feel free to bring it to Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Football. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- ArsenalFan700.No it is updated it is not the same as from 2014 because the logo of AIFF which is used in it is the the new logo launched in 2016 and the In 2014 the IMG reliance logo is used in it and when the IMG parted ways with Reliance in 2018 the logo is updated to Reliance industries logo. And the FSDL is the Joint venture between Reliance and Star so you cannot say it is not updated. So it is an important information from the official website itself so we want to go with that without looking for Unreliable sources.Sinan 2004 (talk) 07:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
@Laser Victor 2017 I have made my statement correct that in the official website of ISL is clearly mentioned that the league organisers are AIFF and FSDL (Reliance and star) check it here 👉(ISL league organisers). So Here The official website is giving an important information about them so we want to go with that. it is from the official website itself then why we want to look for somebody saying about ISL when ISL is clearly giving the information about them in their official website. It is not relevant.Sinan 2004 (talk) 6:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sinan 2004:You haven't presented any suitable reason why The Times of India, ESPN, The Indian Express, Scroll.in, Outlook, LiveMint, Goal, Business Standard, The Telegraph, or Malayala Manorama, which are undoubtedly top-tier news sources, are all "unreliable" or "irrelevant". Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 08:28, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Laser Victor 2017: OK I agree that the above mentioned sources are top-tier news sources but here it is not relevant because the official website is giving the right information about them. We cannot assume that the official website is wrong because any league, organization or anything else Will not provide a wrong information about them in their official website. It's time to use the common logic will any one do so? also check this 👉from khelnow it is also a top-tier news source.Sinan 2004 (talk) 09:00, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have to disagree here. The Indian Super League website is allowed to be wrong. We all had a debate earlier this year on ATK Mohun Bagan for example on if they were correct to combine ATK stats, which they eventually fixed. Also, that section is definitely very vague and doesn't provide direct accuracy. From certified sources, it is obvious that FSDL are the organizers for the ISL, they are the ones that set up the rules, the schedule. They are the ones planning the roadmap and even are the ones developing the new league for reserve players. If you look it up for recent news, you won't find the All India Football Federation involved at all with the Indian Super League. They just sanction the league and their only organizing power is based on ensuring the league follows licensing protocol. Also, Star Sports definitely doesn't organize the ISL besides working with the organizers FSDL and setting the broadcast schedule. Also, final point, khelnow is not a reliable source. The writers are not full-time and some/many articles are crowd-sourced. Again, if you disagree, feel free to bring this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football where we can gather more opinions. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
@ArsenalFan700 I have to disagree here because This is an important information about the competition so the competition authorities will not give wrong thing in their official website and one thing is that if khelnow can be wrong then the sources you have mentioned here is also have to be wrong.Sinan 2004 (talk) 14:41, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- I really don't get your last point at all. I am going to have to escalate this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:13, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- User:Sinan 2004, are you really manually reverting now in an attempt to avoid 3RR? Are you serious?! Seriously, show some maturity, grow up, and actually defend you position. I will revert but only because you didn't have anything to say against reliable sources. If you do, let's continue talking here, but the way you are acting here has just been terrible. User:Laser Victor 2017, tagging you here as well for visibility. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- I really don't get your last point at all. I am going to have to escalate this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:13, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
user af just shortly, why cant both be listed if agreed aiff has its smaller part as organiser?! such unimportant strange discussion. after all refs wear aiff badge for some reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.141.223.229 (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
ArsenalFan700 Are you saying that official website is not a reliable source then why all statistics, sqauds, broadcasters list etc are edited with information from the official website. Use some basic logic will an official website of any league Or organization give wrong information about them itself. Don't be unmatured. Sinan 2004 (talk) 1:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that it isn't reliable. But look, the about page literally says "The league is co-promoted by Reliance, Star India and supported by the All India Football Federation (AIFF)", which is different from what we see at the bottom of the page at "League Organisers". Other reliable, and independent, websites have called Football Sports Development Limited the main and only organizer for the Indian Super League. We should be going with those sources. Who has the final say on all league matters? FSDL. Who has control over the scheduling? FSDL. Who has control over the roster and salary rules? FSDL. Everything is managed by them, the AIFF literally just sanctions the ISL like literally all other leagues. I honestly just don't see why you're arguing about this, beyond just not wanting to admit you're wrong. We have another source this week placing FSDL as the main organizer as they're the ones mandating clubs to increase the number of development spots in the squad. This has to be obvious by now. To add, this Indian Express article says "Football Sports Development Limited (FSDL), a Reliance holding company that owns the league". Also, for your website claim, the same website also makes it clear that FSDL are the organizers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 03:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
User:Sinan 2004, ArsenalFan700, you are so lucky that we now have partial blocks, because you both deserve to be blocked for edit warring. And Sinan, you came this close to being blocked for the false claims of vandalism. Now, you all better work this out one way or another, preferably with the help of other editors who care for soccer (GiantSnowman, of course I'm going to ping you), or I will simply prevent you from editing this article for much longer. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I hope we can get a resolution on this soon. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 03:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- I wish we soon see an end to this. It is going on for a very long time. Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 06:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- User:Laser Victor 2017, this is what you do: you start an RfC, in a new section, with a neutrally formulated question or questions (read the guidelines), and you see about reaching an agreement. That's the way. Drmies (talk) 13:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- I wish we soon see an end to this. It is going on for a very long time. Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 06:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- @ArsenalFan700, Sinan 2004, and Drmies: I found this on the AIFF website at here:
"...the league which is organized by the Football Sports Development (FSDL) under the governance of the All India Football Federation (AIFF)."
I hope this clears all the confusion.
And Drmies I'm still quite new to here, I didn't get the RfC thing. Can you please explain it to me? Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 20:41, 7 July 2021 (UTC)- See WP:RFC. Drmies (talk) 20:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- @ArsenalFan700, Sinan 2004, and Drmies: I found this on the AIFF website at here:
- Ok, thanks. Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 20:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think the AIFF link really does finish this discussion. I really don't see what else is needed. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- ArsenalFan700, what is needed is consensus. (Sorry, but that seems really obvious to me.) Plus, I looked at a dozen Asian football leagues just now, and most do not have "Organisers" in the infobox in the first place, so that's a question worth asking too. But I have learned that fighting over infoboxes is very popular. Y'all could just choose to leave that out of the infobox: why is it necessary in the first place, one might ask. Drmies (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- If you check back the history of the page, I removed the organizers part but User:Sinan 2004 added it back in. It wasn't worth the fight, so now we are discussing what should be in that section if we must have it. I know we need consensus but this is football in India, you are not about to get a lot of discussion and if anything, it looks like 2 to 1 consensus that it should just be FSDL, and not both them and the AIFF. I know that wouldn't be enough but you are probably not getting more than that. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- It's not about what I get--it's about whether you all, no matter really how many people that is, can establish a consensus so that future fights can be prevented. Why don't you put a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football? That's pretty active, and whether something is Indian or not doesn't really matter: there are a lot of knowledgeable Wikipedia editors who can discuss Indian football matters. Drmies (talk) 15:41, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- I did add a post on WikiProject Football. No one responded and it is archived. I can add another which just links to here but I doubt many will discuss. Also... never said it is anything for you to get but that you won't get more discussion on this than what we have now. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- It's not about what I get--it's about whether you all, no matter really how many people that is, can establish a consensus so that future fights can be prevented. Why don't you put a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football? That's pretty active, and whether something is Indian or not doesn't really matter: there are a lot of knowledgeable Wikipedia editors who can discuss Indian football matters. Drmies (talk) 15:41, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- If you check back the history of the page, I removed the organizers part but User:Sinan 2004 added it back in. It wasn't worth the fight, so now we are discussing what should be in that section if we must have it. I know we need consensus but this is football in India, you are not about to get a lot of discussion and if anything, it looks like 2 to 1 consensus that it should just be FSDL, and not both them and the AIFF. I know that wouldn't be enough but you are probably not getting more than that. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- ArsenalFan700, what is needed is consensus. (Sorry, but that seems really obvious to me.) Plus, I looked at a dozen Asian football leagues just now, and most do not have "Organisers" in the infobox in the first place, so that's a question worth asking too. But I have learned that fighting over infoboxes is very popular. Y'all could just choose to leave that out of the infobox: why is it necessary in the first place, one might ask. Drmies (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think the AIFF link really does finish this discussion. I really don't see what else is needed. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. Laser Victor 2017 ❯❯❯ talk 20:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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Add relegation in infobox to "I-League (from 2022)" as the promotion part in I-League states "Indian Super League (from 2022)" RandomSlav (talk) 07:59, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
RandomSlav Relegation is not starting from 2022 it is starting from 2024 as per the AIFF/AFC roadmap Sinan 2004 (talk) 2:15 pm, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Per Sinan 2004. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of i leag clubs
AIFF's offcial recognition of i leag clubs promotion to ISL Sstms (talk) 13:11, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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Most appearance , Pritam Kotal(146) Mshafi12 (talk) 02:08, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Please correct the most appearance tab Mshafi12 (talk) 02:09, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:04, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Need a new section "Clubs' performances"
Between the 'Clubs' and 'Championships' sections (or after the 'Championships' section), we need a new main section called "Clubs' performances" - a table of all the clubs' standings over the seasons. Instead of going through each season or each club's page to know how the club performed over the years, this will give an easy picture (helps comparisons between clubs). Refer "Teams' performances" section from IPL wiki page for the format; it also has a "League stage positions" subsection. 2405:201:D003:94:24:205B:3037:472B (talk) 06:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Note for all
@Squared.Circle.Boxing: @Wikiwizardinho: @Lancepark: @Dhruv edits: @Footy2000: @Sinan 2004: @Hemant Dabral: @DaDeadzombie: @Billjones94: @Drat8sub: @Dollarsign14: @Ken Tony: @Silverdragon3002:
i wanted to notify few most prominent indian football editors about recent edits by user at the top, someone please guide or explain to him if already changing articles (unlinked country infobox, ==== instead of === etc), that it must be done for all top 4 aiff leagues and further much as possible. im tired of seeing him ruin patterns suddenly, where i took years to clear so it looks equal. thanks 93.141.201.70 (talk) 13:00, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Nope. MOS:OL and MOS:BODY apply. Also see WP:CONLEVEL; you'll need strong consensus to go against site-wide consensus. Going by your last sentence, WP:OWN would be worth a read too,. – 2.O.Boxing 13:28, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
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Change ATK Mohun Bagan's name to Mohun Bagan Super Giants 202.173.127.209 (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 07:38, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Stadium fix
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Current stadium of RG Punjab is in Panchkula, not Mohali as ISL table says 93.143.120.248 (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for bringing these to our notice, but it is helpful for everyone that you fix these trivial errors up with sources as soon as you see one. Tagging us will unnecessarily delay it and alert us for a trivial fix. Footy2000 (talk) 04:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Adding here to be seen easier: salt lake and nehru stadium kochi, as seen in my recent edits, are under vandalism attack of random user changing capacity without respecting club/league infobox — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.140.103.186 (talk) 16:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Punjab FC's location
@Drat8sub and Footy2000: Punjab FC is a Mohali based club but it's location in this map showing Delhi's location which is misleading. Would you folks (or anyone else) fix it please! – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 🗿 08:09, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- In map we add home base of the club. Drat8sub (talk) 14:13, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Champions Badge
Mumbai City wears the champions badge for 2023-24 season. What would be done? @Mohunbagani, @Debankan Mullick, @Drat8sub SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 16:54, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I suppose, we should change the title of "Champions" to the league toppers instead of playoff winners. Debankan talk 16:36, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- You are requested to participate discussion in 2023-24 ISL season wiki page where Drat8sub sir commented. SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 06:41, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Summary
There is League winners or Cup winners statistics in summary. Why? SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 01:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)