Talk:International cricket in 2017
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Start of season rankings
[edit]For the ODI, T20I & women's rankings there is not an issue, but once the West Indies v Pakistan Test series is completed the ICC will do its annual rejig of ratings. Do we use these as the start of season rankings, or keep the figures from 29th March (end of India v Aus & SA v NZ)? The Windies v Pak series counts as last season for statistical purposes, so I'd use the new ratings, anyone disagree?
New figures will look something like this if the last Test is drawn (though I think in past the ratings have floored the rating at 0):
Team | Matches | Points | Rating |
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India | 32 | 3917 | 122 |
South Africa | 26 | 3038 | 117 |
Australia | 31 | 3087 | 100 |
England | 34 | 3364 | 99 |
New Zealand | 32 | 3114 | 97 |
Sri Lanka | 31 | 2836 | 91 |
Pakistan | 31 | 2878 | 93 |
West Indies | 26 | 1939 | 75 |
Bangladesh | 17 | 1171 | 69 |
Zimbabwe | 9 | -56 | -6 |
- I've based them on the ICC's April 1 cut-off, but I agree that as there's a series still going on from the old year, it would make sense to update it once that's complete. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:42, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Games to include
[edit]I agree with @Arjunsanyal: that we should not include A-team tournaments unless we include other A-team tours as well. Spike 'em (talk) 08:58, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- Even though they have List A/first-class status, whereas the Southeast Asian Games do not? Seems quite flawed logic from Arjunsanyal. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:06, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- I was just looking at that, and am not sure if that is notable enough either. We include the World League Div 5 / 6 which I don't think have List-A status but at least is part of the ICC ladder. I'm sure there are many games / tournaments between low level national teams that are not included on here. On the A-team point, bilateral A-team tours also feature first-class / List-A games so would have the same notability as a 3-way List A tournament to me. Spike 'em (talk) 09:20, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, none of the WCL matches below Div 2 have List A/ODI status, but form part of the notability criteria. As far as I know, all the A tours have the LA/FC status. I'd like to here convincing arguments from users like Arjunsanyal for their exclusion, other than "we've not included them in the past", etc. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)