Talk:Islamic studies

Bolder Changes Required?

I made some additions to more accurately reflect the interdisciplinary nature of this academic field. I looked at the page on American Studies to try to achieve some uniformity.

However, I left, for now, the links that were already on the page and the internal link to Akbar S. Ahmed. The external links that were there, while of some interest to scholars of Islamic Studies, do not shed any light on the discipline itself, and should probably be removed. Akbar S. Ahmed seems to be a prominent scholar in the field of Islamic Studies, in which case the link should probably reflect this.

Should I go ahead and make these changes? Pontus rosen 17:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Islamic Entertainment & Islamic Athletics

My feeling is that "Islamic Athletics" and "Islamic Entertainment" should be removed as subheadings from this article. While these concepts may exist, my guess is that they do not enjoy the status of academic disciplines. Religiously inspired athletics and entertainment are perhaps studied as cultural and religious phenomena in Sociology, Comparative Religion or in Art, but not in their own right. Unless an accredited university offers academic classes in these fields within a broader "Islamic Studies" department, I don't think they belong in this article. If they are, then my bad. Pontus rosen 14:53, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Islamic Academics

The article is clearly lacking in what I think the article should be about. The article should include information about, not just the subject matter of Islamic studies, but should discuss Islamic STudies as as an academic subject studied in the West at educational institutions and discuss how it is studied there, as well as in the East (probably some overlap with Islamic Education). For instance, it should discuss how Islam is and has throughout history been studied at Oxford and Cambridge universities, the histpry of the subject and how it was and is taught, who teaches and what is taught ther etc. I hope towork on it soon. (Tanzeel 20:38, 26 February 2006 (UTC))

Sounds great. --Striver 01:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I absolutely agree. The article started as a source of information referring only to the Western academic field often called 'Islamic Studies.' It now predominantly has become a laundry list of how everything under the sun can be studies in the context of Sharia and thereby deserves to be labelled as 'Islamic Studies.' Someone knowledgeable in both areas needs to make clear demarkations between the two and control any resulting attempts to restore confusion. (Pontus_Rosen 17:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC))

As I said, I hope to work on it soon, but I've just been so unbearably busy this last month with all sorts of work and personal stuff...when i get the time I will work on it. However, I won't be able to do much by myself, I'll need help, and although I'm quite knowldgable about the matter, I'm not a very experiencced wikipedian..so i'll need help even when i find the time Tanzeel 19:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

second paragraph

The second paragraph of this article is completely usless and POV. I am going to delete it.--Musaabdulrashid 18:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

--110.39.133.83 (talk) 13:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)--110.39.133.83 (talk) 13:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Possible merge/to Islamic Theology

An anon IP recently redirected the page to Islamic Theology without providing an explanation. I am neutral as to whether a merge is in order, but a discussion needs to happen before a redirect of this kind. This article is still basically unreferenced, so could definitely use improvement if a merge is not the consensus.Dialectric (talk) 09:19, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dialectric, I don't think a merger with Islamic theology would make sense, given that only section 3.1 is about that topic (it has that heading). This is more a list of all the topics addressed in classical scholarship in the Muslim world (or at least, section 3 is). If it were left to me, I would actually split this page into two. One would be "Islamic studies (Western academia)" or something like that, and would include the whole introduction except the first paragraph, as well as section 1 (which is background on Orientalism). The other could be called "Islamic scholarship" or something like that, and would include the first paragraph of the introduction and sections 2 and 3. (Section 4, which is a list of journals, would need to be split according to the nature of each journal.) The distinction being the former is the discipline about Islam, while the latter is what is studied by Muslims (including studying Islam, as in 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, but also subjects that would normally be regarded as secular, like 3.4, 3.5, 3.6). As is the page seems an unwieldy combination of material on 19th/20th-century Western scholars (even if some have more recently been Muslim) and ~8th-14th-century Islamic scholars. Anyway, what are your thoughts? And yes, this article is definitely very short on sources. ThomasEdistar (talk) 23:09, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Split into two new articles - undone!

I attempted to split this article into the two articles Islamic studies (academia) and Islamic studies (theology), yet it turned out that it was not a good idea, and not well-done (bold copy-paste). The split is taken back, the two new articles are now mere redirects to the original article, and maybe can be removed, soon (yet I do not dare). --IbnTufail (talk) 18:22, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

The plan is now to leave it with one article, and do clarify different perspectives within one article. --IbnTufail (talk) 18:24, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Initial images representative of Islam?

So I'm wondering if the three initial images are representative of Islam/Islamic Studies. Considering the general religious discomfort of figurative work on most of the Muslim world/history, wouldn't other images be more respectful/better representation for this subject? Thoughts? Mask of Mayhem (talk) 07:03, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Hadith and Quran

Reading Yusufadam53 (talk) 18:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Beside Hadith and Quran, Ramadan is also really important for Muslims. Ramadan is the best month for practising things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoforAli (talk • contribs) 09:41, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Requesting wider attention

I felt article Islamic_literature is in bit of neglect so I added my note on talk page there, requesting to take note of Talk:Islamic_literature#Article_review. If possible requesting copy edit support. Suggestions for suitable reference sources at Talk:Islamic_literature is also welcome.

Posting message here too for neutrality sake

Thanks and greetings

Bookku (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Hermeneutics of feminism in Islam

Hi,

I came across this promising Draft:Hermeneutics of feminism in Islam (relating to women's rights) and myself supported the same editorially too. IMO since topic potential is vast many Reliable sources on Google scholar seem to be available hence the article needs more editorial hands for some more update and expansion along with appropriate references.

Pl. do join to update and expansion, your help will be most welcome.

Thanks and regards

Bookku (talk) 15:19, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Request for comments

Greetings to all,

A Request for comment has been initiated regarding RfC about whether to allow use of honorofic 'Allama' with the names or not?

Requesting your comments to formalize the relevant policy @ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles

Thanks

Bookku (talk) 18:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Umbrella term?

There is no evidence on this page or in the sources that Islamic studies is an umbrella term for Islamic sciences. Islamic sciences is an umbrella term itself. In my understanding Islamic studies refers to the first perspective and Islamic sciences refers to the second. The article is attempting to alter the term Islamic sciences to Islamic studies, making it more ambiguous and classing it together with secular studies of Islam. There should be a separate page for Islamic sciences and a link to Islamic sciences could be placed under See also section of Islamic Studies. Amirah talk 11:10, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Actually, "Islamic studies" is most often used in English as referring to the secular, academic study of Islam. In the future, we should probably rework this article so as to only deal with that subject, and create another article at Islamic sciences that deals exclusively with the religious Islamic sciences (the ʿulūm al-dīn). Right now, these two very different subjects are confused on a range of Wikipedia pages, including this one. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 13:29, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Apaugasma I totally agree with you on this. Amirah talk 13:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Art 353 Art of the Islamic World

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