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Konev or Koniev
[edit]I see this page was moved from Ivan Koniev to Ivan Konev a few months ago, but in the text, and in many other articles, he is still consistantly refered to as Ivan Konev. Which should it be? Shanes 01:58, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Konev or Koniev
[edit]It should be Konev in English. Pronunciation in Russian is also Ivan Konev (same as written name). --Adomas vitas 10:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
It was falsely atated in the article that Koniev's command was redesignated the 4th Ukrainian front in 44'. in actual fact the 4th Ukrainian front was formed from the 1st ukrainian front's left flank, with Petrov placed in its command. Koniev's command retained the designation the 1st Ujrainian Front to the end of the war. it is also stated that said 4th Ukrainian Front ostensibly under Koniev's command "advanced into Slovakia and helped slovak partisans in their rising against German occupation". this is entirely false. Koniev's attempt to force the Carpathians during the ill-fated uprising failed with the Soviets suffering heavy losses (the battle is described in detail in John Erickson's "The Road To Berlin"0. It was then that the 4th Ukrainian Front was established. By the time it forced the Carpathians the uprising, that had not been a great challenge to the Germans to begin with, was long over. I deleted the errors 09/09/06
Liberated?
[edit]I think the USSR occupied those territories after the Germans. "Liberate" gives a misleading connotation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.247.63 (talk) 07:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
/// USSR made there several puppet regimes, however, it was not occupation, because all the countries who took a part in war on nazi side (Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria) which was defeated was not loss their state status despite of after war puppetisation(except Slovakia, which was include in Czechoslovakia as before ww2 ), and, moreover, USSR reinstate the Poland (in different borders), in 1941 it was not exist as a state. Another former Germany ally- Finland was not even puppetize by USSR, as well as Austria, part of it liberated from nazi by USSR. And Japan prefer surrender to USA, who nuked it twice, than wait for Soviet puppetisation.
East or West - who is fighting with who?
[edit]"who led Red Army forces on the Eastern Front during World War II" It should be "Western Front" or Konev was fighting with japs. 84.248.127.195 (talk) 09:47, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
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It is from German perspective, war with Japan was important for USA mostly, not for Europe.
"Brutality in combat"
[edit]"Konev was widely renowned for brutality in combat. In one case, his forces had pursued a German division which took refuge in the small Soviet town of Shanderovka. Konev had the town surrounded on 17 February 1944, and then called in incendiary strikes from Il-2 aircraft, which turned the town into an inferno. German troops who had survived the bombardment fled into the Russian winter, only to be met by T-34 tanks which crushed them under their tracks, as well as cutting them down with machine gun fire.2 The survivors were then finished off with Cossack Cavalry units, who butchered the Germans with swords, with some accounts even claiming that those who raised their arms in surrender were also killed.2 Some 20,000 Germans died that day, along with 8,000 captured by the Red Army."
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This masterpiece of anti-Russian propaganda quite amusing- poor Germans invade in another state, destroying industry, kills millions of people, many of those are civilian, and relying on warm polite attitude to them, of course, Red Army must invite them to the party with tea and fresh cakes! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Traktor7 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
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Role in '68?
[edit]Mentioned in this [[1]] about Konev's statue in Prague is something about him having a role in the events there in 1968. This seems to be missing in the article. Should a mention of this be added? TMLutas (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Monument Prague
[edit]I miss other reasons for rejecting the monument. The Soviet counterintelligence service Smerš, with Koněv's consent, arrested hundreds of Czechoslovak citizens of former Russian citizenship from Prague and the surrounding area in May 1945, who went into exile after the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, including the former Tsarist officer and later Czechoslovak general of Russian origin, Sergei Wojciechowski. Other sources speak of thousands of arrested Czechs who came to the Gulag.--Falkmart (talk) 22:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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