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Critisism of Fine's book When Ethnicity Did Not Matter in the Balkans

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There was an interesting discussion here.
The book is hevilly critisised in Croatian historiography, it's according to Budak and Vdović;

Fineova knjiga ne može ni na koji način zaslužiti pozitivnu ocjenu. Fine's book cannot in any way merit a positive review. https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/75847
Bilo bi hvalevrijedno kada bi autor, upozoren na sve ove nedostatke, a pogotovo na stav prema Hrvatima i svoju neprikladnu metodologiju, našao snage javno se ograditi od ove knjige. It would be commendable if the author, alert to all these shortcomings, and especially to his attitude towards the Croats and his inappropriate methodology, found strength to publicly distance himself from this book. https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/75847
Vođen svojom nacionalističkom predrasudom, Fine je odlučio iskritizirati nekoliko hrvatskih historičarki i historičara, kao netko tko je „nepristran“, međutim, on to nije Driven by his nationalist prejudice, Fine decided to criticize several Croatian historians and historians as someone who is 'impartial', however, he is not. https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/249957
Zato i jest neobično što Fine olako donosi zaključke koji su gotovo nedokazivi, ali i sasvim nelogični. That's why it unusual that Fine easily reaches conclusions that are almost undetectable, but also completely illogical. https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/249957
Očigledno je negiranje hrvatskog imena kao nečega što je konstruirao nacionalizam. It is obvious denial of the Croatian name as something constructed by nationalism. https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/249957

Should it be granted label as unreliable source? I think it should. --Čeha (razgovor) 21:14, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here are also chapter summaries: https://muse.jhu.edu/book/7069 --Čeha (razgovor) 01:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Talking to yourself is not the way to go, on Wiki or in RL. Furthermore, refering to this TP in summaries is irrelevant. Sadkσ (talk is cheap)
And you think that critisism of the book should be placed somwhere else, and not on the article TP? An interesting reflection. --Čeha (razgovor) 02:35, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]