Talk:K-63 (Kansas highway)

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Review: March 14, 2021. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Willbb234 (talk · contribs) 18:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to review this article for GA. Expect comments soon. Kind regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

I don't see any need to go down to such a large decimal place (literally down to the metre) for the distance of the road.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You repeat that the road ends in the north at the Nebraska state border. Please remove one of these.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
and Nebraska border follows should go to and the Nebraska border follow
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The highway also crosses the former Pikes Peak Ocean to Ocean Highway in Seneca however, you say that highway passes along the edge of Seneca, not actually in Seneca, so this can't be the case.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route description

The Kansas Department of Transportation (KDOT) tracks the traffic levels on its highways, and in 2019, they determined that on average the traffic varied from 475 vehicles per day between K-16 and Havensville to 4700 vehicles per day along the overlap with US-36. there's no mention here that this is talking about the K-63, in fact, it could be implied that you are talking about Kansas highways in general due to the first phrase in the sentence. Will need clarification.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink to St. Marys needs to be reorganised so that it is linked the first time it is mentioned in this section.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
K-63 begins in St. Marys at US-24, "begins" isn't quite the right word here. Rather the southern terminus is in St. Marys, and not the beginning. Let me know if you disagree.
- Fixed I do agree because technically it begins at both ends. -420Traveler (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
the highway becomes more rural technically, the highway doesn't become more rural, but the surroundings do.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You can abbreviate Union Pacific Railway to 'UP' and place it in parentheses so that it is easier to refer to it later in the article.
- Fixed I think its good.-420Traveler (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
flat rural farmlands 'rural' and 'farmlands' are synonymous, so 'rural' should be removed.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
St. Clere has a Wikipedia article, see Saint Clere, Kansas.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Might be worth linking to Nemaha River basin where you say 'South Fork Big Nemaha River.'
- Fixed I agree-420Traveler (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's a couple more times where you say 'rural farmlands'.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

History

and Nebraska border follows should go to and the Nebraska border follow
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 19:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Then in a March 9, 1955 resolution, it was approved to realign K-9 to continue east from Centralia directly to K-63 then overlap K-63 south to Corning, then turn east in Corning and leave K-63.[25] Then between 1961 and 1963, the realignment of K-9 was completed. these two sentences could be combined into one.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 19:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
K-63 originally curved west east of Seneca typo.
- Fixed -420Traveler (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

I'm questioning the validity of using dated maps like these to cite information. They only imply changes to the highway and don't actually mention the changes at all. By using the resolutions in conjunction with the maps, it could be considered a synthesis of sources - Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Similarly, do not combine different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source. If you have any specific guidelines or policies that say that maps are fine to be used in road articles, then please link them here.
- @Willbb234: I cant find any specific policy right now, but I have seen it in the past though, I will continue to look if needed. It is a usual practice for road articles though, its done in almost all of the GA and FA road articles.-420Traveler (talk) 22:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a search for images on commons, but can't find any. How about including some images of locations along the highway?

Thanks for addressing the comments promptly and I am looking forward to hearing back from you. Kind regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Only image I can find is "File:StMarysKs.JPG" which is the view if you look east from the southern terminus. It wont help now, but I will be travelling through the area in a few weeks, so I will be taking pictures. -420Traveler (talk) 22:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, I will pass this article for GA. The article is written well and any issues with the prose were addressed. The article contains reliable sources. Suspected original research has been discussed and I believe the article is fine. The article contains no copyvio, is neutral, and stable. The article lacks images because none could be found. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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