Talk:Kids on the Slope

Kids on the Slope has been listed as one of the Language and literature good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: October 7, 2020. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Kids on the Slope appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 July 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the depiction of Catholicism in Japan in Kids on the Slope, an anime series adapted from a manga by Yuki Kodama, has been compared to The Singing Nun and Sister Act?

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The Japanese title, 'Sakamichi no Apollon', does not literally mean 'Kids on the slope', its literal translation is 'The Apollo of the slope'. The word Apollon has no meaning related to children or kids, but rather refers tot he god of Greek mythology. In the program, one of the characters is compared to Apollo, and hence the Japanese title. The English title is a little more fluent, but it is not a literal translation from the Japanese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.74.101 (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apollon

It's technically Apollyon, not Apollo: A reference to Revelation 9:11 and includes many other references to Revelation. 69.158.179.27 (talk) 23:47, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 12:11, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Yoko Kanno

... that motion capture for Kids on the Slope, an anime series adapted from a manga by Yuki Kodama, was performed by jazz musicians the director and composer found on YouTube? Source: "Making of Kids on the Slope, Session 1: Interview with Shinichirō Watanabe" on Kids on the Slope, Complete Collection (DVD)
- ALT1:... that to prepare for Kids on the Slope, an anime series adapted from a manga by Yuki Kodama, composer Yoko Kanno (pictured) researched studio recording techniques of the 1950s and 1960s? Source: "Making of Kids on the Slope, Session 2: Interview with Yoko Kanno" on Kids on the Slope, Complete Collection (DVD)
- ALT1a... that to create the soundtrack for Kids on the Slope, an anime series adapted from a manga by Yuki Kodama, composer Yoko Kanno (pictured) researched studio recording techniques of the 1950s and 1960s? Source: "Making of Kids on the Slope, Session 2: Interview with Yoko Kanno" on Kids on the Slope, Complete Collection (DVD)
- ALT2:... that the soundtrack to Kids on the Slope, an anime adapted from a manga by Yuki Kodama, features American jazz musicians Art Blakey and Bill Evans? Source: cited in articles

Reviewed: Psilocybin decriminalization in the United States, The House of Flowers (season 1), Alley Pond Park
Comment: Kids on the Slope is 5x expanded; Yuki Kodama and Music of Kids on the Slope are newly created.

5x expanded by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I'll be claiming Kids on the Slope for review (I'm not sure if I have the time to review the other article), but it's getting late where I live so I'll try to finish by tomorrow. My preferred hook is ALT0 since it's catchy and might interest those who aren't interested in anime (with the mention of YouTube and motion capture and all). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 15:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for taking up this review. Note that I've added a third article to the nomination (third QPQ to come), so I've struck ALT0 and ALT1. Morgan695 (talk) 23:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just took a quick look at this (I apologize for not starting the review earlier, I wasn't feeling very well yesterday) and while this isn't a DYK issue and won't affect the review for this nomination in any way, if you're planning to take Kids on the Slope to GA I'd suggest you try finding some more Japanese reception for the series (this may include disc sales numbers or other data), as well as more information about the live-action film if possible. As for the hook, this is probably one of the rare cases where I'd suggest that individual hooks might work out better than a multiple-article one. For example, the Kids on the Slope article by itself seems to have plenty of material that could work as hooks individually, whether it be on the portrayal of Christianity in Japan, or the motion capture stuff I highlighted above, and having a multiple article hook would mean these options won't be given a chance. Possible options could be to propose more hooks that feature Kidd on the Slope alone or perhaps at most just the main article plus the mangaka's article, while the music of article could have individual hooks proposed as well. I'll finish the review once these concerns have been addressed, but so far the series article doesn't seem to fail any DYK criteria. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:48, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ehh, multiple hooks for such a specific, niche topic feels like overkill. Would prefer to keep all three in one hook if possible. Morgan695 (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hooks about niche topics can work provided they're worded in a way they'd appeal to broad audiences. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:20, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make it clear: I'm not rejecting any of the three article hooks, merely suggesting that additional hooks be proposed so that the eventual promoter can have several choices on what to promote. More hooks means more choices, and that can be a good thing if there's several interesting facts to choose from. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:22, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's best to keep all articles in one hook, as Yuki Kodama and Music of Kids on the Slope are most interesting to a general audience in the context of their relation to Kids on the Slope. If this represents an impasse that makes you unable to review this nomination, please refer the nom to another editor. Thanks! Morgan695 (talk) 16:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Narutolovehinata5, it's been a week since you claimed this DYK. Can you please provide an update on the status of your review? Morgan695 (talk) 23:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned before, I would prefer if additional hooks would be proposed, mainly to give promoters more choices since there's just too much interesting content across the three articles to be limited to so few choices. The Kids on the Slope article is actually fine and more-or-less meets requirements, though as mentioned above I'd encourage more Japanese reception being added to the article (this is more in case you want to nominate it for GA and would not affect the DYK nomination). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2-A... that the depiction of Catholicism in Japan in Kids on the Slope, an anime series adapted from a manga by Yuki Kodama, has been compared to The Singing Nun and Sister Act? Source: Holy Anime!

ALT2-B... that the soundtrack to the manga and anime series Kids on the Slope features American jazz musicians Art Blakey and Bill Evans? Source: CD soundtrack(s) cited in article

@User:Narutolovehinata5 Alt hooks above. Would like to again re-iterate that I believe this nomination works works best as a single hook. If this remains an impasse, I would again recommend referring this nomination to another editor. Morgan695 (talk) 23:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kids on the Slope meets DYK requirements as being adequately sourced and having been expanded on time, with no close paraphrasing detected. Some hook facts are cited offline so I'm assuming good faith for those. QPQs have been done for this article. Owing to a lack of time I will leave the review of the other two articles as well as the choice of hooks to another editor. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:30, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As no other editor has taken a look yet, I'll now be reviewing the Music of Kids on the Slope article. It meets DYK article requirements and is free from close paraphrasing. The hook fact for ALT2B is cited in the main Kids on the Slope article but not for the music one; I'd suggest duplicating the references to be on the safe side. If I have time I might review Kodama's article as well but for now I'll leave the review of that and the choice of hooks to another editor. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Review of Yuki Kodama: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online sources. However, while all mentions of her in the hook options above say the manga from which Kids on the Slope was adapted was her work, there is no inline cite for this fact. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Yoninah: I think there's been a little confusion here - Kids on the Slope was originally a manga series that was written by Kodama, which was then adapted into an anime series. The manga was an original work that was not derived from an existing work. Morgan695 (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Morgan695: OK, sorry. So we need a sentence in Yuki Kodama that explicitly says she wrote and illustrated the manga, with an inline cite. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Done. Morgan695 (talk) 20:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Hook fact verified and cited inline. Yuki Kodama good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:21, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Thanks for reviewing. Both Kids on the Slope and Music of Kids on the Slope were passed by User:Narutolovehinata5, so you're free to give this nomination a tick. Morgan695 (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. My preference is to run the two hooks, ALT2-A and ALT2-B, which have some nice hook material in them, as opposed to the triple hook of ALT2, which just seems like a lot of bolded links flowing together. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:46, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Does the hook fact for ALT2B also need to be cited inline in the Music article? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an additional reference just in case. Morgan695 (talk) 02:27, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: No. In a multiple hook, the hook fact must be stated and cited inline in only one of the articles. That way you can string together several related nominations into the same hook. See for example the lead hook currently in Prep 3: ... that Thomas Powell (depicted) was one of several "crack" Hudson River steamboats of the 1840s powered by the marine engineering works of T. F. Secor?. The hook fact only appears in the second article. The other articles in the nomination must of course meet all usual DYK requirements. Yoninah (talk) 12:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kids on the Slope/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Moneytrees (talk · contribs) 19:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed for Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/October 2020

I'll start this soon. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 19:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
File:Kuroshima14.jpg might have been tagged in a way that doesn't comply with Japan's FOP, but I can figure that out for you. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 03:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It does, passed. This is an impressive article and it's clear that you've put a lot of effort into it. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 02:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Overall:
Pass/Fail: