Talk:Killing of Tofazzal Hossain

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The following discussion is an archived debate about the proposed addition to Category:Violence of Bangladesh Chhatra League. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate/separate discussion section in the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

@Vinegarymass911@SummeRStorM79@Arijit Kisku, Hey i just want to get a heads up. Should we put this article as part of Violence of Bangladesh Chhatra League, as from six, five of the convicts are former BCL members and leaders. (References from reliable sources:1 2 3) Bruno pnm ars (talk) 17:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your sources mention former Bangladesh Chhatra League, from which the one person who held any post resigned and joined the anti-discrimination student movement. So I would say no.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 18:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of the three articles that i provided contain any references indicating an association between the convicts mentioned and the Anti-discrimination Students Movement. The only relevant mention comes from The Daily Observer, which notes that a singular individual^[a] participated in the quota reform protests during the mid-stage of the quota protests. However, I believe it would be prudent to wait and consider others' perspectives on the matter before drawing any conclusions. Bruno pnm ars (talk) 18:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Literally the second source, https://www.jugantor.com/national/855124, mentions it.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 23:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to Jugantor, "One of the detainees (Jalal Miah) was the Deputy Editor of Science and Technology for the Fazlul Haque Muslim Hall branch of the Chhatra League (BCL). At the time of his arrest, he was politically aligned with Sheikh Wali Asif Inan, the General Secretary of the BCL. Reports indicate that during the quota reform movement, Miah resigned from the Chhatra League and became involved in the anti-discrimination student movements protests."

It's important to note that Miah is just one of five individuals affiliated with the BCL who have been convicted.

Regarding the timing of his resignation, The Daily Observer reported that it occurred around mid-July, coinciding with the conclusion of the "July Revolution". During this period, hundreds of activists from the Awami League (AL), BCL, Jubo League (JL), and Swechchhasebak League (SL) resigned, presumably to avoid scrutiny after Sheikh Hasina fled the country 1, 2, 3, 4. I’m still unclear on the main point you're trying to convey. I suggest we discuss it further to ensure we’re both on the same page. This way, we can clarify any misunderstandings and make sure the message is communicated effectively. Bruno pnm ars (talk) 10:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruno pnm ars Um, I don't have enough knowledge on the subject, so I would defer to other experienced editors. I just made a couple grammar edits, that's about as far as my skills range, @ least in regards to this article. Thanks for mentioning me, though! SummeRStorM79 (talk) 18:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruno pnm ars

In my opinion, it would be best not to categorize the article under Violence of Bangladesh Chhatra League While the convicts' affiliation is relevant and should be mentioned, the focus of the article is on the specific case of Tofazzal Hossain. It’s more appropriate to mention their BCL ties within the narrative rather than framing the entire article under that category. Arijit Kisku (talk) 00:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I understand your perspective, I respectfully disagree. Categorizing the article under "Violence of Bangladesh Chhatra League" is relevant given that multiple convicts are affiliated with the BCL. This affiliation is not a minor detail but a significant part of the broader context surrounding the case, as it reflects on the organization’s involvement or influence.

A similar precedent can be seen with the "Murder of Abrar Fahad" case, where the majority of those convicted were affiliated with the BCL, while one or two were regular students involved as assailants. That article was appropriately categorized under "Violence of Bangladesh Chhatra League" due to the substantial link with the BCL. For consistency and clarity, this case fits that category as well, allowing readers to better understand the broader implications of these incidents. Bruno pnm ars (talk) 10:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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