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s.c.?

What does "s.c." mean? Caeruleancentaur (talk) 00:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any technical specifics?

How many strings? How was it tuned? When was it standardized? Radical man 7 (talk) 20:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

@Radical man 7:, you are exactly right: this is not an encyclopedia article, but a piece of cheap propaganda. There is no academic support for the concept that kinnor is anything but the ancient Hebrew word for the instrument widely used at the time in the region. It is as if we had on ENGLISH Wik. not just an article on modern violin, but one on "Geige" dealing only with German aspects, one with "vioară" dealing only with Romanian aspects, etc. Ridiculous. Arminden (talk) 11:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?

"Kinnor" means violin. "Nevel" is a harp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.68.245.8 (talk) 21:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Major rewrite 3 June 2013

The article was in pretty bad shape, so I did a near-total rewrite today, based entirely on cites from reputable sources.

Here are a few of the sources used, in case I or others need to refer to them later: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is the reconstruction (drawing) legit?

The drawing by Aaron Walden should be checked by a specialist. I know for sure that the instrument depicted on the stone seal used as model for the half-shekel coin is a fake, and the two look quite similar. But not identical, so maybe this one is a plausible reconstruction, while the faux 7th-century Judahite "Belonging to Maadana, daughter of the king" seal & lyre is not. Anyone? Arminden (talk) 15:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Arminden:. By any chance can you post a link to the artwork you are talking about? I am interested in knowing more about the fakery you mention. The current artwork at the top of the page comes from an artifact in the Israel Museum in Jerusalem File:Ivory plaque from Megiddo IAA 1938-780.jpg. This shows an example of the kinds of Lyres near Jerusalem in the Hellenic period. Jacqke (talk) 15:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was this the artwork you reference? [12] Jacqke (talk) 15:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for more on the origins of the Megiddo lyre File:Kinnor played before a king.jpg, I found this journal article written by Bo Lawergren Distinctions among Canaanite, Philistine, and Israelite Lyres, and Their Global Lyrical Contexts in which he examines more than 100 images of lyres from antiquity. He says of the Megiddo lyre, "Megiddo, 1200-1150 B.C...Being a treasury, the ivories may have been collected for generations...and the lyre picture may be older than the date assigned here...it belongs securely to the Canaanite period at Megiddo...". I hope this is what you were looking for. By the way, I never found any reference to Aaron Walden. I'm curious. Best wishes Jacqke (talk) 19:09, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]