Talk:Laurie Hernandez/GA1

GA Review

Passed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Riley1012 (talk · contribs) 19:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 14:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Looking back to December 2023, no evidence of edit warring.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.

Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my review comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check: I reviewed all matches over 7.5% found using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. The matches were all attributed quotes, or phrases acceptable per WP:LIMITED.
Images: both imaged are CC. Captions are appropriate.

Sources

I don't think the citation to Hernandez's Twitter account is appropriate for "and fans widely supported Hernandez online". (WP:OR tells us that "Articles must not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves.")

I've removed this sentence and source because it doesn't seem relevant.

What makes TV Tonight, (the personal blog of Commentator, David Knox) a reliable source?

Removed because I couldn't find a better source

Early Life

Spot check on "Hernandez was born in New Brunswick, New Jersey, the daughter of Wanda and Anthony Hernandez, both from Puerto Rico. She has a sister, Jelysa, and a brother, Marcus" - I didn't see "born in New Brunswick, New Jersey" or "both from Puerto Rico" supported by the cited source.

More sources added.

Ref 4 "Laurie Hernández Is the Second Puerto Rican Gymnast to Represent Team USA at the Olympics" is missing the author and source names.

Done

Spot check on "She took ballet lessons when she was four, but she asked her parents to switch to gymnastics when she was five" - no issues.
Spot check on "She was homeschooled through the Abeka Academy distance-learning program" - I don't see "She was homeschooled" supported in the cited source.

Source added.

Junior gymnastics career

Spot check on "Hernandez's elite career started in 2012 at the National Qualifier held at the Karolyi Ranch" - I don't think we can tell from the cited source that this was when "Hernandez's elite career started"

Removed.

Spot check on "Hernandez's first meet of the 2013 season was the WOGA Classic," - I don't think we can tell from the cited source that this was her first meet of the season.

Removed.

Spot check on "In September 2013, Hernandez was selected to represent the U.S. at the Junior Japan International in Yokohama." I suggest rewording to "Hernandez was selected to represent the U.S. at the Junior Japan International in Yokohama in September 2013." as the source doesn't verify that she was selected in September 2013.

Done

Spot check on "In early 2014, Hernandez fractured her wrist when she slipped off the beam in a training session. Later that year, she dislocated her kneecap and tore her patellar tendon" - mostly OK but how do we know from the source that it was "her patellar tendon"? (It might follow from the source, but I'm not sure)

Additional source added confirming it was a torn patellar tendon.

Spot check on "Hernandez was named to the U.S. team for the 2015 City of Jesolo Trophy, where she was crowned junior all-around champion with a score of 57.650" - no issues

Senior gymnastics career

"in Jesolo, Italy," - move this info to the first mention of Jesolo (2015)

Done

Spot check on "three-time world all-around champion Simone Biles," - no issues
Spot check on "Hernandez had previously committed to the University of Florida to compete on the Florida Gators gymnastics team in the NCAA." - this has info not in the source, e.g. team name.

Additional source added.

Spot check on "decided to forgo NCAA eligibility and become a professional athlete on August 3, 2016" - no issues.
Vary the wording in the Rio de Janeiro Olympics so that we don;t have three consecutive paragraphs starting with "On [date]..."

Done

Do sources tell us why she went on hiatus?

Added.

Spot check on "On April 29, Hernandez's former coach Maggie Haney was suspended by USA Gymnastics for eight years due to abusive conduct. Hernandez testified against Haney at the USA Gymnastics hearing" - verified by source. I added a "url-access=subscription" to the citation.
Spot check on "Haney publicly humiliated Hernandez for her weight, leading Hernandez to binge and purge." - no issues, except that the Ref is missing the author.

Added.

"As of 2020, Hernandez still struggles" - Maybe "In 2020, Hernandez said that she still struggled"?

Done

Spot check on "She retired from competition in 2021" - no issues

Television roles and media appearances

"won the Mirrorball Trophy" - suggest adding that they won the competition, as not everyone will know that this is what "won the Mirrorball Trophy" means.

Done

"At 16, Hernandez is the show's youngest winner" - sources are from 2015, so either add an "As of" or jsut amend to " At 16, Hernandez was the show's youngest winner."

Done

"to participate in a trio jive with Victoria Arlen and her professional partner Valentin Chmerkovskiy." Chmerkovskiy was introduce just now, so how about just "to participate in a trio jive with Victoria Arlen and Chmerkovskiy."?

Done

Having the full table of results for Dancing with the Stars feels a bit WP:UNDUE. Do we need the table here, when Dancing with the Stars (American TV series) season 23 is available?

I know that it is common for contestants to have these tables on their own pages (e.g. from the same season: James Hinchcliffe and Calvin Johnson).

OK. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Competitive history

I added a heading for the table for accessibility, and updated the reference. Feel free to tweak the table heading.
Shouldn't this section be moved down to above Filmography? (I haven't checked MOS, but usually tables are together at the end of articles.)

Yes, good point. I've moved it.

Media appearances and Books

Maybe consider combining these short sections.

Done

Ref 95 is missing the author.

Done

Spot check on " In 2018, Hernandez published a similar children's book for younger readers titled She's Got This, with illustrations by Nina Mata" - is it really "similar"? Do we need the phrase "for younger readers" here?

Agreed, it's duplicative. Removed.

Personal life

"Since 2023, Hernandez attends New York University Tisch School of the Arts" - I'd suggest "Hernandez started attending New York University Tisch School of the Arts in 2023." to futureproof the statement a bit.

Done

Lead and general comments

What's the source for Zoe being her middle name?

Added.

In the spirit of MOS:LEADCITE, consider adding the info about her date of birth into the "early life" section and moving the citation there.

Done

"at the 2016 Summer Olympics that won the team gold medal." - would "that won the team gold medal at the 2016 Summer Olympics" be better?

Done

"She returned to training in late 2018" - consider adding a reference to there being a hiatus

Done

Lead has "Val Chmerkovskiy" but body has "Valentin Chmerkovskiy"; it should be consistent.

Done

Feels like the lead is a bit unbalanced; are there any more aspects of her gymnastic career that can be highlighted in the lead.

I've added another paragraph.

Are there any sources that can be used to add in a bit about her gymastics style or "personality"? There seem to be quite a few sources that talk about her as the "Human Emoji"

Not sure where this could be added to the article and how to keep it neutral.

I had another look and there's not really much of substance in those articles that reference her as the "Human Emoji", so nothing needed.

@BennyOnTheLoose: Thank you for your review. I believe I've addressed all of your points. -Riley1012 (talk) 16:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Riley1012. I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria now. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.