Talk:Lionel Penrose

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Is 'S' his entire middle name, or just a middle initial? A period should be added if the latter were the case. Kent Wang 08:32, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

'S' is probably not his entire middle name, but I don't know what it is. Apologies if I violated the Wikipedia naming conventions.Average Earthman 10:14, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Not a "chess theorist"

I don't think there is any basis for describing Lionel Penrose as a "chess theorist". Unless a suitable source is found, this should come out of the intro. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:27, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Mental retardation"

In the career section the term "mental retardation" is used and I don't think I need to tell y'all why it's unfit for Wikipedia. I would change it, but I'm not quite sure what to change it to. It seems that by "mental retardation" not just intellectual disability is meant, but other neurological disabilities as well, due to the characterisation of BPD as "mild mental retardation". Would "mental disability" work to replace this? "Neurological disability"? I don't think the term "mental deficiency" should be used either, though. Amalthea Little (talk) 22:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure I agree. mental retardation used to be a genuine medical term, not a slur. It would be historically accurate to use mental retardation in the text if this is the term Penrose used himself (it was used by medical professionals until the 60s so I assume he did). I would instead advice to add a link to 'mental retardation' to the page on 'retard', which does a great job at explaining that nowadays this is an offensive term, but that it used to be a medical term. This way, the page would stay true to the source while at the same time not normalising the use of now offensive slurs. Emma VDB Wiki Editor (talk) 13:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Career

In the wiki page for his more famous mathematician son I noticed that the son had spent time in London, Ontario, Canada as a child. Lo and behold, father had as well.

From: https://history.rcplondon.ac.uk/inspiring-physicians/lionel-sharples-penrose

"From 1939 to 1945 he was director of psychiatric research in Ontario, lecturer in psychiatry at the University of Western Ontario, and medical statistician to the province."

This blurb is ambiguous and needs work before it gets incorporated here: Director of psychiatric research. WHERE? At UWO (now renamed Western to match its former nickname)? Medical statistician to the province? In his role at UWO or actually for the province of Ontario? Erdunbar (talk) 12:41, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]