Talk:Liselotte Funcke

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:45, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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Liselotte Funcke in 1974

• ... that after Liselotte Funcke (pictured) served as minister of economy in North Rhine-Westphalia, she became the Ausländerbeauftragte of the federal government, to care for the integration of foreigners? Source: several

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• Comment: the full titles for both positions are horrendous, wording help appreciated - she was "first female" in both but it makes it even longer - best on her birthday 20 July

Created by Olaf Kosinsky (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC).

• Comment What is a Ausländerbeauftragte? --evrik ^(talk) 23:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• New enough, long enough, cited. QPQ done. The prose is stilted, but appears grammatically correct. AGF on the sources. Can you rewrite the hook? --evrik ^(talk) 23:39, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  Let's see. I couldn't translate the official term, and had no time to look it up. I did now, Commissioner for Foreigners. That has no article. I don't know if it would be understood, therefore I rather described it, right in the hook. (DYK is supposed to make curious, so the German word - helpful also for those who don't know that NRW is in Germany - might "hook" to want to know what it is.- Perhaps you - or someone watching - can help wording. Yes, you can help phrasing, as long as it's still the same fact. - She was called "Mutter der Türken" ("Mother of the Turks", or what?), see translated "Armed with impressive confidence in her person among the German population, she quickly understands how to become the "interpreter" of the problems of her foreign fellow citizens. This is especially true for the largest group, that of Turkish fellow citizens. The name 'Mother of the Turks', a term that implies respect and gratitude at the same time, is the distinction that the people themselves give her." That should enter the article, - could it be used for a hook? But I'm afraid that will be too long??" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• Alt1a ... that in her role as the German Commissioner for Foreigners, Liselotte Funcke (pictured) was affectionately known as the 'Mother of the Turks'? --evrik ^(talk) 14:06, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

  Nice try, but I have no source saying the name was given during her official function, nor for "affectionately", - the source supports "respectfully". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• Alt1b ... that because of her work on behalf of German immigrants, Liselotte Funcke (pictured) was respectfully known as the 'Mother of the Turks'? --evrik ^(talk) 14:51, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

  Sorry,I think that's too harmless, - no minister, no commissioner, while she was the first woman in both positions. "German immigrants" sound ambiguous. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• Someone else, please finish this. --evrik ^(talk) 18:14, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

• Gerda, here's one try and then it's up to you to submit an acceptable hook:
• ALT2: ... that as the Federal Commissioner for Foreigners in Germany in the 1980s, Liselotte Funcke (pictured) saw her role as "interpreter" of the problems of foreign workers, especially Turks? Yoninah (talk) 12:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

  It's fine by me, thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

• Wow, thanks! @Evrik: could you finish up with ALT2? Yoninah (talk) 12:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

• Approving Alt2 --evrik ^(talk) 14:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC)