Talk:List of Dexter characters
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Editing Sorely Needed
[edit]This page is filled with poor writing--bad grammatical constructions, run-ons, random tense changes, etc. It's a mess. A competent writer should really clean it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.74.7 (talk) 04:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Strongly agree. I removed appx. 25 "however", most of them entirely misguided. Arcsoda (talk) 21:11, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Doakes
[edit]If I recall correctly, when they find his body in the water his arms and legs have been blown, might be worth mentioning (since in the 'Dearly Devoted' Doakes is tortured and amputated). 86.157.159.74 (talk) 12:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- That would probably count as original research.--CyberGhostface (talk) 16:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Including characters from the books
[edit]Whould we include the characters from the books (Dr. Danco, for example), or the variants of the characters (such as the fact Sgt James Doakes in Albert Doakes in the second book)? Ggctuk 13:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm undecided right now. If done care should be taken to clearly distuingish between the book variant and the series variant. Perhaps it would be best to make two seperate articles, one for the series characters (this article, renaming it to "List of Dexter characters (TV series)" for example) and one for the book characters. An alternative is to make a new section at the end to describe characters only present in the book and the differences of characters in the books. All the differences shoudl be described in that section and not the character section of the tv-series in my opinion.--Fogeltje 18:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose separate articles, because merging the two can be rather confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.196.48 (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
There should be separate articles, as I attempted to separate even one character, and it was a nightmare because I feel like I have to counter every television series comment with the difference in the book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.48.191 (talk) 15:11, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
split articles
[edit]I think it may be time for the characters to be separated by book and show. Maybe not quite ready for two different articles yet, but some character descriptions are a little confusing with all the book/show info kinda mixed together. The first season, while based on the first book, differed from it, and the second season was not based on the book at all. With season 3, this trend is likely to continue, and there are many main characters with diffrering stories that may just make this articles more confusing:
1. Debra: In the book she knows and accepts Dexter as a killer, but in the show she doesnt know (yet).
2. Laguerta, who is killed in the first book, is alive in the show and is likely to be a bigger factor in Season 3 because of her desire to clear Doakes name as Bay Harbor Butcher.
3. Brian Moser: While in the show he is dead and gone, in Book 1 he is still alive and may re-appear.
4. The list of victims/antagonists needs to be separate; Lila West and Dr Danco should not appear to be in the same section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.30.91 (talk) 23:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- I completely agree, the show and novel series should not be together (could even have separate articles).24.190.34.219 (talk) 18:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Doakes Jewish?
[edit]I believe, in one of the first episodes of Dexter, Doakes mentions something about his nephew's bar mitzvah. Dexter then says he never knew Doakes was Jewish. Is this an indication that Doakes is Jewish or has some Jewish family? Jaylaw (talk) 00:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
It seemed to me that was a joke on the part of Doakes. He was referencing that he would never invite Dexter to anything and used that as an example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.104.231.194 (talk) 20:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Christina Robinson
[edit]The link for Christina Robinson, who plays Astor, links to a Christina Robinson, fictional character in some Australian soap opera...
That could be fixed by someone nice.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.177.28.86 (talk) 22:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
The Skinner
[edit]I added an entry for The Skinner, who looks to be an upcoming villain in Season 3. Is this alright?
AdamDevlin (talk) 08:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
rita
[edit]it says in the article that she first married at 4 months while in the series it says she was 16. this is just confusing and it would be quite obvious she did not marry at 4 months. this should be removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.176.245 (talk) 01:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- official record showed that she was married at 4 months old while Dexter read it out as 16 Baboo (talk) 15:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
[edit]A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Astor
[edit]The link to the girl who plays Astor directs to the page for a fictional character from Neighbors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.9.187 (talk) 12:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Age difference
[edit]Just out of curiosity, where exactly in the television series mentions Brian being 2 years older than Dexter? In the flashback (with the two sitting in the cargo container), Brian appears 3 or 4 years older than Dexter. Farslayer (talk) 11:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Order of villains and victims
[edit]Currently there doesn't seem to be much of a reason for the order of the villians and victims. It would make much more sense to have them listed in some sort of order, preferably by appearance.
For instance, Dexters first victim in the show, Mike Donovan is listed as 4.7, while 4.1 Paul Bennet isn't seen until about halfway through Season 1.
SkonesMickLoud (talk) 15:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- On the subject of Mike Donovan, I believe that his car is not a Ford Taurus, but a Volvo station wagon, and quite an old one at that. Even though the shot when one first sees the car is set at night and thus dark, I immediately recognized that car's distinctive shape when I first watched the Dexter pilot, and re-watching (and freeze-framing) the shot now, I see that one can even make out Volvo's distinctive diagonal chrome strip on the grille. My guess is an early-90s Volvo 740 station wagon - 78.20.145.31 (talk) 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody is contradicting me, so I just went ahead and changed it. 78.20.145.31 (talk) 18:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- On the subject of Mike Donovan, I believe that his car is not a Ford Taurus, but a Volvo station wagon, and quite an old one at that. Even though the shot when one first sees the car is set at night and thus dark, I immediately recognized that car's distinctive shape when I first watched the Dexter pilot, and re-watching (and freeze-framing) the shot now, I see that one can even make out Volvo's distinctive diagonal chrome strip on the grille. My guess is an early-90s Volvo 740 station wagon - 78.20.145.31 (talk) 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Consistent rule for writing about seasons
[edit]This article has no consistency as to how it refers to seasons. Are we using capitals (as in "Season One") or lowercase (as in "season one")? Are we using numbers (as in "season 3") or letters (as in "season three"). Grammatically, these numbers should be written out unless there is some convention that Dexter has already set up that involves using western arabic or roman numerals. Also, unless there's a convention that's been set up that dictates that the letters be capitalized, I see no reason why they should be. I'm happy to hear what others think. These are just my thoughts. ask123 (talk) 06:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
12 years later and this article is still in dire need of editing. Arcsoda (talk) 21:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Too much?
[edit]Should we split this into two or three pages? Like, have minor characters who only appeard in one or two episodes or Dexter's victims be on a spearate page? And have this page be only main characters and important recurring characters? Just a thought J52y (talk) 10:56, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Arthur Mitchell and Rita's killer
[edit]An IP editor keeps changing Arthur Mitchell's section to remove the "may have" and indicate he definitely killed Rita. While this certainly seems to be the case, it's not definite. I don't feel we should be jumping the gun, since for most of season four, we also thought Arthur Mitchell/Trinity killed Agent Lundy and shot Deb. I think in this case, indicating he may have killed her is sufficient, since we have no reliable sourcing showing he actually was the killer. Any thoughts? Dayewalker (talk) 02:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Honestly I see no evidence (Aside from similar M.O.s, but this wouldn't be the first copycat in the series) that Trinity killed Rita. They seem to keep killings within the show within at least a slightly realistic frame, albeit some pretty impossible settings sometimes. Given the fact that Arthur left Miami in mid-day, was grabbed by Dexter at ~2200 (given time to take him back to the basement in Miami, spend time with him, chop him into nice bits, AND take him out to the Gulf Stream) and still make it home before even a hint of daybreak, the blood on the floor would have all been dried on the floor by then, even if some spilled out of the tub. To keep from soapboxing with guesses like that, Arthur showed no signs of pursuing Dexter after he went to the wrong D. Morgan's apartment, and is next seen leaving town. I would strongly suggest holding off on even guessing at who killed Rita until the next season. (Personal input; my immediate guess was the neighbor. No evidence to back that, though, so I'll just wait until the next season). With no real evidence of a culprit, nothing more is needed than "She's dead". Girasoleil (talk) 04:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- In an interview with John Lithgow and Hall they talk about Trinity killing Rita. The link to it is here Finale Discussion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Undead penguin (talk • contribs) 05:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting Video and they do cite the killer as trinity, makes me wonder if that is their opinions or if they were told that by the writers i had not thought of the points Girasoleil came up with, however they could simply be plot holes Jreidus (talk) 22:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
- One bit of evidence against: Arthur is desperate for ready cash, but did not take Rita's ring. (At this point he has little cover to blow by pawning it.) —Tamfang (talk) 23:18, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- In an interview referencing Rita's death between seasons 4 and 5 the writers say that they had not yet written season 5, and did not know where they were going with it. Arguably, this means that Rita could have been killed by anyone. 192.12.88.68 (talk) 16:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The Show is Based Only on 'Darkly Dreaming Dexter'
[edit]I am amazed at the number of times the uninformed, or the inattentive, state that the show is based on the "novels" (plural). Showtime has rights only to 'Darkly Dreaming Dexter' and not to any of the subsequent stories. I corrected this on the opening paragraph. They have not used, nor do they have a right to use, any of the characters or stories originating in subsequent books. To have such a patently false statement open the entry is incredibly mind boggling. If you don't know the facts don't post assumptions or guesses in their place. (75.69.241.91 (talk) 06:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC))
official nicknames
[edit]- Lila is so far the only main antagonist who was not given an official nickname.
Does Miguel Prado get an official nickname (whatever that means) or is he not a main antagonist? —Tamfang (talk) 06:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Wherever that is in the article you should remove it, it's original research. Aranea Mortem (talk to me) 22:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
bullet summaries
[edit]- Tamfang would like to know what the hell these new bullets are for.
Kefas80 went to the trouble of heading each entry with a summary; in honor of that effort, and avoiding the assumption that most people share my preference not to read the same material twice in a row, rather than immediately undoing it I'll ask: What the hell? —Tamfang (talk) 05:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- Adding casting details, such as first appearance, duration and number of appearances is IMO a valid addition in order to meet the quality standards as asked for at the top of the article. However - I'm sure it can be done smoother. :) I'm not sure what details you refer to that are repeated, though. -Kefas80 (talk) 14:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, oops. The first of these bullets has "Dexter ... is the main character of Dexter"; and then the main text begins "Dexter Morgan ... is the main character and narrator of the series." I vividly remember seeing much more repetition than that – perhaps I'm remembering transitional versions, or hallucinating.
- I don't agree that "quality" requires such catalog data to be at the top of the entry; they're less relevant to the essence of the character than is their relation to Dexter (sister, coworker, antagonist, etc), which you did not include in the bullet. And the bullet format itself looks awkward. (Articles on Buffyverse characters list their episodes at the bottom.) —Tamfang (talk) 23:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hey - no need for irony. Stay civil. Any ideas how to include the facts for each character without regressing to a fansite? --Kefas80 (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- (Huh? There's vinegary irony in my first entry here, but I see none in my last.)
- I'd put the catalog data last. —Tamfang (talk) 11:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Dan the dentist
[edit]Is his last name spelled Mondale or Mendell? I can't seem to find the appropriate source, help will be greatly appreciated. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 17:25, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Joe Driscoll
[edit]Perhaps I missed something, but it is ever made clear that Brian and Dexter have the same father? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.67 (talk) 18:11, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
ANGEL BATISTA
[edit]Made changes to a statement that he slept with the undercover police officer. He did not actually ever sleep with her, at least while she was undercover. I do believe they had a sexual relationship afterwords though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.43.152 (talk) 04:27, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Spoilers
[edit]The page is called "List of Dexter characters" *NOT* "List of Dexter characters, their ultimate fates, and a general in depth summary of the entire plot".
What is the purpose of writing an article about Rita, and having one line at the end saying oh btw she dies at the very end of season 4, the season 4 climax is out of *nowhere* and is one of the few times in entertainment history i've been caught unaware, thank gosh I didn't read wikipedia first. However I did want to know who played Frank Lundy, as I didn't know there were 2 Carradines, and it was bugging me, and in finding out I also managed to catch an unnecessary line about his death, even without reading his entry.
Example 1: Frank Lundy, an FBI serial killer profiler appearing in season 2 and season 4, famed for solving un-solvable cases blah blah etc.
Example 2: Frank Lundy, an FBI serial killer profiler appearing in season 2 and season 4, in season 2 he has a sexual relationship with Debra Morgan, which ultimately ends when in the last few minutes of the season he moves away on another case. In season 4 he starts the gang onto the trail of a serial killer named Trinity and is then shot dead by Quinn's girlfriend the reporter who is also secretly Trinity's daughter.
Why on earth would you ever put in a description like in example 2 without any warning? Again, if someone clicks on a link marked "In depth plot summaries for Dexter all seasons" that is a lot different than one titled "List of characters". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mega Fauna Blitzkrieg (talk • contribs) 10:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
I agree. Arcsoda (talk) 21:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
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