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Class?

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This is just a list but nethertheless I think it deserves a B class, correct me if Im wrong Fattyjwoods 05:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I would say C or D class. Most on this list devalue the medal. The same applies to most medals awarded in the 19th Century. The medal seemed to be much harder to get in WW1, and a little easier after that. Wallie (talk) 19:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be confusing project ratings (Stub, Start, C, B, A, (GA, FA)) with some sort of personal opinion on the qualities needed to be a VC recipient; a personal opinion that I do not share. This list is a featured list which means it has been externally reviewed and found to meet the featured list criteria. Woody (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Data - Towns, Villages or other Places

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I am working my way through the list of Indian Mutiny VC Recipients and filling in the gaps where unit names have been misspelled or names of towns, villages or other places of action have been entered into Wikipedia incorrectly or incompletely. My intention is to ensure that this page and the pages of the recipients does not contain any inaccurate, mis-attributed, misleading or missing data. I have been through the Wikipedia entries of every single Indian Mutiny VC recipient on the list and I have edited where appropriate to ensure uniformity and accuracy.

If anyone is able to help me locate the following towns/villages (that I suspect were either noted down with incorrect spelling in the London Gazette or have been renamed over time) so I can correctly add this information to this page and the respective pages of the VC recipient involved I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance Exemplo347 (talk) 19:01, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Posthumous awards

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‘There were only two posthumous recipients of the VC for actions during the rebellion; the original Royal Warrant did not contain a specific clause regarding posthumous awards, although official policy was to not award the VC posthumously. Between 1897 and 1901, several notices were issued in the London Gazette regarding soldiers who would have been awarded the VC had they survived. In a partial reversal of policy in 1902, six of the soldiers mentioned were granted the VC, but not "officially" awarded the medal. In 1907, the posthumous policy was completely reversed and medals were sent to the next of kin of the six officers and men; Everard Phillipps and Edward Spence were decorated …’

These sentences in the last paragraph need to be updated. I will try to get it done in the next couple of weeks,

1st sentence:  There were only two posthumous recipients of the VC for actions during the rebellion

VC & GC Vol 3 lists 11 who died before their awards were gazetted.

2nd sentence: Between 1897 and 1901, several notices were issued in the London Gazette regarding soldiers who would have been awarded the VC had they survived.

Correct but they were handled differently. The two awards for 1897 were reversed in 1907 five years after the three awards for South Africa were reversed in 1902.

3rd sentence: In a partial reversal of policy in 1902, six of the soldiers mentioned were granted the VC, but not "officially" awarded the medal.

Yes, there was a partial reversal of policy. The three South Africa awards were officially granted the VC. In addition, the first three ‘official’ posthumous awards, the names of three recipients having not previously been gazetted, were gazetted and also received the VC.

In 1907, the posthumous policy was completely reversed and medals were sent to the next of kin of the six officers and men; Everard Phillipps and Edward Spence were decorated thus.

Yes. As well as the two Indian Mutiny awards, VCs were sent to the next of kin of the two Zulu War memoranda cases and the two 1897 cases.

There were 12 memoranda notices with resulted in three notices in 1902 and six in 1907 with the information the VC would be sent to the respective next of kin. What happened to the other three memoranda cases from the Indian Mutiny? A change in policy shortly after the awards were gazetted saw the next of kin immediately sent the VC. Unlike 1902 and 1907 there was no London Gazette notice. It was not until 1920 that the War Office published a list of VCs awarded prior to 1914 which included the names of all twelve memoranda cases. This list was republished in January 1953 as Part I of ‘The list of the recipients of the Victoria Cross’. Anthony Staunton (talk) 05:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

. I replaced the misleading information by substituting the relevant paragraph from the main article. Anthony Staunton (talk) 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]