Talk:List of Occupy movement protest locations in the United States
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Occupy Albany resource
[edit]Protesters arrested in Albany for defying curfew NOVEMBER 20, 2011, 4:59 A.M. ET Associated Press via WSJ excerpt ...
Protester Sheldon Dodson estimates that more than 50 people were arrested. Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo has vowed to have anyone arrested who violates the park's curfew. The park land is adjacent to the city-owned Academy Park, where demonstrators protesting economic inequality and corporate greed have been allowed to camp since Oct. 21. Before Sunday, more than 60 Occupy protesters had been arrested for defying the curfew, most on trespassing and disorderly conduct charges.
99.56.120.136 (talk) 01:50, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Split
[edit]A {{split}} tag was inserted onto this page. The editor who did this did not start a discussion. I'll note that I split this article off of the wider List of Occupy movement protest locations that was far too large. The other editor created pages based on states. On the largest one, California, failed to copy the sources for this and apparently doesn't understand the structure of inserting this material back in. I'm not sure I can accomplish it properly, what I will attempt will affect the layout of the article once again
To the discussion: I agree the United States article is still too large. It would be good to do a split, if it works. The question is how to make it function? Other editors designed the table format that appears on the site now. I have expressed its design alone is too cumbersome, as evidenced by the fact that this editor and many other editors have not even figured out the three tier referencing system. Perhaps we need to solve that issue before spitting the article up but I'm going to make some attempts.Trackinfo (talk) 03:02, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I've reverted the split for now. If you decide how to split it up before tearing up references like this editor did, then I support splitting it. However, he didn't do it correctly. — Moe ε 16:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I've reverted the Alabama split and redirected back into this article, however Occupy movement in California looks alright for now. If that is expanded with all the proper templates, external links, and all that, then we can take California off this list and keep it separate. — Moe ε 16:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I will express my objection to the way this has resulted. Instead of presenting the information in a visible table, as I had attempted to do, this version now just send the user off to an extra link. If they don't click it, they don't see the state with the largest number of protests. It becomes an insignificant single line. I also object to that reduction on the main global List of Occupy movement protest locations. While consolidating article size is nice for our ability to function and edit, when it turns into an exercise in hiding that information I have to draw the line. WP is an information source. This new table format makes for easy reading but adds 25% more code. It also prevents us from being able to merge articles for unified display. If that limitation prevents us from being able to properly present the information, then all of this, including my own creation of this article (though I didn't create the table), should be reverted and we go back to the original look where things can be seen from one place. Trackinfo (talk) 17:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have to disagree. Having a single line in the table is fine. If people want to find California, it's in alphabetical order and they can click the link to see all the protests in California. I understand the need to keep it visible on the main article to an extent, but I don't think it is too much to have a reader click a link. While it is our job to make information easily readable and able to find, it isn't our job to make it so the reader doesn't have to click a link. Besides, I have made this information easily accessible now that I have linked California to the main template, the main protest location article and from the U.S. article. — Moe ε 18:58, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I will express my objection to the way this has resulted. Instead of presenting the information in a visible table, as I had attempted to do, this version now just send the user off to an extra link. If they don't click it, they don't see the state with the largest number of protests. It becomes an insignificant single line. I also object to that reduction on the main global List of Occupy movement protest locations. While consolidating article size is nice for our ability to function and edit, when it turns into an exercise in hiding that information I have to draw the line. WP is an information source. This new table format makes for easy reading but adds 25% more code. It also prevents us from being able to merge articles for unified display. If that limitation prevents us from being able to properly present the information, then all of this, including my own creation of this article (though I didn't create the table), should be reverted and we go back to the original look where things can be seen from one place. Trackinfo (talk) 17:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Costs
[edit]I removed the costs column. See this version of the article, and this diff. The costs column was not discussed first, and I don't think costs merit a separate column. Costs info should go in the notes column. We could have separate columns for arrests, date when protests ended, and much more. There is not enough room because then the notes column starts wordwrapping to 2 lines. Set your screen resolution to 1024 by 768 (a common setting for 17 inch-or-less monitors and laptops) and increase your font size. Then you will see the problem. Too many cities then take more than one line, and the page takes longer and longer to scroll through. --Timeshifter (talk) 06:56, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Moved info to comments section per your request. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 14:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
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