Talk:List of fountains in the Kansas City Metropolitan Area
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original page move
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Maybe I was confused by the intro, but I moved this page to a new title reflecting only KCMO. Isn't the City of Fountains foundation working only within KCMO? Why would their list show fountains outside the City? Maybe I missed something, and we need to move it back... -- nae'blis 16:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Look at the list and you see entries in Lenexa and Leawood. That's why I originally limited it to just Kansas City. For what it's worth, I'm not 100 percent sure the City of Fountains Foundation is a valid entity that could be trusted to maintain this list. I emailed them mentioning the article and pointing out the omission of some prominent fountains around KCI. I have not heard from them. I see that you took out the disclaimer about comparison to other cities. 200 fountains -- especially some of the small ones on the list -- is not that many and if any larger city made a major effort to catalog their fountains they would easily surpass it. But we'll let it ride now. In the fountain category, Rome is the only other city broken out! Americasroof 17:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I just did a fresh look at the City of Fountains website and they still have a 2002 copyright. I suspect this was used to promote their book and so is no longer active. If that is indeed the case I should knock off the Lenexa, Leawood and Westwood fountains and keep the list a strictly Kansas City, Missouri list (and allow folks to add new fountains on their own). P.S. Thanks for moving out the registered name on the neighborhood list! Americasroof 17:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- On the other hand, they have been around since 1973 according to their bylaws, and they're a city contractor. On the gripping hand, that doesn't mean the list is authoritative, as it seems to be at least partially user-compiled (probably vetted after that). It's the best I've got right now, though... (actually, the book might be even better; I'll see if I can get it from the library) -- nae'blis 18:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the links. The bylaws and minutes make for interesting read. The bylaws definitely call for it to be a metro organization. They show $2 million in assets so it's not a fly by night operation. There's probably not a lot of fountains being added by the day now that they've identified most of them so that may explain why they didn't respond when I asked about three northland fountains (the spray at the KCI Marriott, the water flowing down the new sculpture on the road into KCI, as well as a fountain at a car dealership on I-29). Americasroof 23:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Their book is at KCPL, but I had to work tonight and couldn't get there in time to check it out. -- nae'blis 03:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the links. The bylaws and minutes make for interesting read. The bylaws definitely call for it to be a metro organization. They show $2 million in assets so it's not a fly by night operation. There's probably not a lot of fountains being added by the day now that they've identified most of them so that may explain why they didn't respond when I asked about three northland fountains (the spray at the KCI Marriott, the water flowing down the new sculpture on the road into KCI, as well as a fountain at a car dealership on I-29). Americasroof 23:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- On the other hand, they have been around since 1973 according to their bylaws, and they're a city contractor. On the gripping hand, that doesn't mean the list is authoritative, as it seems to be at least partially user-compiled (probably vetted after that). It's the best I've got right now, though... (actually, the book might be even better; I'll see if I can get it from the library) -- nae'blis 18:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I just did a fresh look at the City of Fountains website and they still have a 2002 copyright. I suspect this was used to promote their book and so is no longer active. If that is indeed the case I should knock off the Lenexa, Leawood and Westwood fountains and keep the list a strictly Kansas City, Missouri list (and allow folks to add new fountains on their own). P.S. Thanks for moving out the registered name on the neighborhood list! Americasroof 17:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The result of the debate was move. -- tariqabjotu 01:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]Having checked out the book mentioned above, it does indeed intimate that the "City of Fountains" epithet belongs to the entire Kansas City Metropolitan Area. That being said, what is the best title? I would probably prefer List of fountains in the Kansas City Metropolitan Area, but that may be unwieldy. A less precise, but acceptable (to me) option would be List of fountains in Kansas City. Thoughts?
Survey
[edit]- Support move to List of fountains in the Kansas City Metropolitan Area; long but precise, and since most links will be from a footer template, it doesn't seem to be too much of a burden. -- nae'blis 19:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Comment: If the goal is simply to include fountains on the opposite side of the state line (Kansas City, Kansas), we might just reduce the title to List of fountains in Kansas City. — CharlotteWebb 23:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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