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Talim Island
[edit]I added the article Talim Island which is located in the middle of the Laguna Lake and I do not know if it could be categorized in this list. This list (Island of the Philippines) needs attention, hoping that you could help. Thanks! Fddfred 12:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Duplicates
[edit]Bohol was represented twice: by Bohol and Bohol. I removed the former, since it seemed to be talking about the province and not the island. PaintedCarpet (talk) 09:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Zamboanga
[edit]Removed "Zamboanga Island" as it is not an island; it is a peninsula off Mindanao. 18:40, 08 December 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corkescrews (talk • contribs)
Cleaned up
[edit]I did some cleanup and reorganization on the list as it has become too long and difficult to navigate with the list basically just grouped into 3. Created subgroups per region/minor island group for better maintenance. oh! and added a few hundreds more.
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Pacijan Island, Fuga Island, Batan Island, and Panglao Island to be included in the List of islands by size section
[edit]Pacijan Island in the Camotes Island Group has an area of at least 105 km2 (40 sq mi). Just take a look at the Wikipedia article for San Francisco, Cebu, you will see the municipality of San Francisco's land area which is 106.93 km2 (41.29 sq mi). The Tulang Islet which is part of the municipality of San Francisco is very small with an area of 0.96 km2 (0.40 sq mi) (see Tulang islet section under the Geography section in the San Francisco, Cebu article), and if you subtract the Tulang Islet's area from that of the municipality of San Francisco, you get the area of Pacijan Island which is 105.97 km2 (40.89 sq mi). Pacijan Island should be ranked #42 on the list between Homonhon and Poro with Poro being demoted to rank #43.
Fuga Island (or Fuga Moro island) (which is under the municipality of Aparri, Cagayan) has an area of 100 km2 (39 sq mi) as per its Wikipedia article making it rank at #43 which is just below Pacijan island, but above that of Poro island further demoting Poro island to rank #44.
Batan Island in the Batanes Islands has an area of 95.18 km2 (36.75 sq mi) as per its Wikipedia article making it rank at #45 just below that of Poro island.
Panglao Island near Bohol has an area of 94.53 km2 (36.50 sq mi) as per its Wikipedia article. Panglao should be ranked #46 just below that of Batan Island, but above Patnanongan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aamma58 (talk • contribs) 05:06, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
- Problem is most areas in these articles don't have reliable sources. I will do some research and see if I can update the list. Regards, -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 20:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I hope you're successful.Aamma58 (talk) 04:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Aamma58
Calayan, Camiguin, and Babuyan Claro of the Babuyan Islands needs to be included in the List of islands by size section
[edit]Another three islands from the Babuyan Islands needs to be added. I'm not sure how accurate their stats are, but they appear large enough to be included in the list eyeballing them on a map. The Babuyan Islands Wikipedia article provides the following land area for each of the islands: Calayan (196 km2 / 76 sq mi), Camiguin (166 km2 / 64 sq mi), Babuyan Claro (100 km2 / 39 sq mi).Aamma58 (talk) 04:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Aamma58
- I know. I added this info just 2 days ago. The reference seems to be a reliable source; it in turn claims to have sourced it from the National Mapping and Resource Information Authority and National Statistics Office. Good enough for me.
- Once I have updated the articles of the individual islands with reliable sources, I will update the list. Regards, -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- I know you added the information for the Babuyan Islands. Thank you for all the effort. It's a lot of work, and I very much appreciate it. By the way, and you probably know to do this already, but you may want to distinguish Camiguin of the Babuyan Islands from that of the Camiguin just north of Mindanao in the list. Lastly, how far down the list do you want to add islands? I would think Romblon Island deserves to be listed even though it's area is 86.87 km2 (33.54 sq mi) (according to the Romblon province Wikipedia article) is slightly smaller than the last island currently on the list, Pangutaran. Unless those statistics are wrong also, and that it's actually larger (or smaller). Unfortunately Romblon Island doesn't also have an article of its own, perhaps such an article should be created in the future. Romblon Island is important because it makes up much of the Municipality of Romblon, the capital of the province of Romblon. Aamma58 (talk) 06:23, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Aamma58
- Yes, it turns out to be difficult to find authoritative sources. In fact, I think that many islands and places never had a proper survey done. That may account for the many discrepancies I have seen between sources, and I have seen just plain wrong info in official sources (e.g. Batan Island – I had updated it to 95 km2 because that is the sum of the 4 municipalities according to PSGC, but that is clearly too big; it should be in the 70 km2 range). When it is hard to trust the data, it is better not to use it.
- There is no set limit yet how far down we should go. But I would certainly add Romblon and other notable islands. You know, there is no Romblon Island article because it is (nearly) coterminous with the LGU. Everything you want to say about the island can be added to the LGU article (see also Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Archive34#Island municipalities). -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:33, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- I know you added the information for the Babuyan Islands. Thank you for all the effort. It's a lot of work, and I very much appreciate it. By the way, and you probably know to do this already, but you may want to distinguish Camiguin of the Babuyan Islands from that of the Camiguin just north of Mindanao in the list. Lastly, how far down the list do you want to add islands? I would think Romblon Island deserves to be listed even though it's area is 86.87 km2 (33.54 sq mi) (according to the Romblon province Wikipedia article) is slightly smaller than the last island currently on the list, Pangutaran. Unless those statistics are wrong also, and that it's actually larger (or smaller). Unfortunately Romblon Island doesn't also have an article of its own, perhaps such an article should be created in the future. Romblon Island is important because it makes up much of the Municipality of Romblon, the capital of the province of Romblon. Aamma58 (talk) 06:23, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Aamma58
Negros Island area
[edit]There is uncertainty about the land area of Negros and Samar, and depending on the source, one is larger than the other. Currently the area info in both articles is based on Island Directory of United Nations Environment Programme. Further research I did shows this:
Negros area in km2 |
Samar area in km2 |
Source |
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9,225 | 9,949 | "Philippines Geography has more islands than you could possible visit". Philippines Travel Guide. |
12,705 | 13,080 | "Turning Points I (Philippine History) 2007 Ed". Rex Book Store Inc. |
12,710 | 13,080 | "Negros". Encyclopaedia Britannica.; "Samar". Encyclopaedia Britannica. |
12,748 | 13,322 | "Philippines Country Guide 2015-2016". Petit Futé. |
13,075 | 12,849 | "Islands by Land Area". Island Directory Tables. United Nations Environment Programme. |
13,309.6 | 13,428.8 | "Philippine Yearbook 2010" (PDF). National Statistics Office. |
13,350.74 | 13,834.56 | "List of Provinces". PSGC Interactive. National Statistical Coordination Board. This is a calculated value. Expand to see calculation. Negros: NegOcc: 7965.21 NegOr: 5385.53 + ---------------- total 13350.74 Samar: East: 4660.47 North: 3692.93 West: 6048.03 + ------------------- subtotal 14401.43 minus the following off-island municipalities: Tagapul-an 28.70 Almagro 51.36 Sto. Nino 29.53 Daram 140.26 Zumarraga 38.55 Biri 24.62 Capul 35.56 San Antony 27.00 San Vicente 15.80 Guiuan 175.49 - ------------------- total 13834.56 |
Notes: I have omitted sources that duplicated any of the areas above, and obviously omitted any unreliable sources (wikis, blogs, etc.). For convenience, the larger area per source is highlighted in green. |
There is little agreement between these values, but it seems that Samar is generally a bit larger than Negros. I would consider the National Statistics Office the most authoritative of all these sources, and I will update the island info accordingly. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:03, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Conflicting total area
[edit]Under "List of islands by size", it states "The 50 largest islands have a combined area of around 321,000 square kilometers". This is already much larger than the total area of the country (300,000 sq km, as listed in both Wikipedia main page and the CIA world factbook). 76.14.104.80 (talk) 23:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- The total area of 300,000 km2 is an estimate that is too low. The main Philippines page also has a note saying: "The actual area of the Philippines is 343,448 km2 (132,606 sq mi) according to some sources." Then it makes more sense... -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 12:33, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
East Guhuan Island
[edit]According to https://geonames.nga.mil/gn-ags/rest/services/RESEARCH/GIS_OUTPUT/MapServer/0/query?outFields=*&where=ufi+%3D+-2401696, OpenStreetMap and Google Maps, East Guhuan Island is in Malaysia. Is there a better source to confirm which country this is in? Or is the boundary uncertain in this area? Peter James (talk) 21:17, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- The sister article in Cebuano shows that it is in Malaysia. And this topographical map clearly shows that it is well within the Malaysian boundary. Safe to remove it from the list IMO. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:40, 10 October 2023 (UTC)