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Madonna Litta

This picture is listed as "Traditionally Accepted", which is a different classsification of Universally/Widely/Generally Accepted at the top of the section. Is this a mistake or intentional (i.e. do we need to add a 4th classification to the top of the section)? 78.18.254.195 (talk) 23:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Salvator Mundi

This painting was in the "disputed works", section but when it sold for $450m in 2017, an editor decided it was now accepted. However, times have moved on and in November 2021, the Spanish Prado museum downgraded it to "partial" in their major respective cagalog (which took 5 years, and involved the Louve and other museums, to write).^[1]^[2] In the 2021 documentary The Lost Leonardo, da Vinci expert Frank Zöllner said: "You have the old parts of the painting which are original—these are by pupils—and the new parts of the painting, which look like Leonardo, but they are by the restorer. In some part, it's a masterpiece by Dianne Modestini".^[3] In 2022, the Encyclopædia Britannica records that "no official record of the painting's attribution officially exists".^[4]

I think we should move this painting back to "disputed works" and with a highlight that it is considered a "Supposedly collaborative work". 78.18.10.8 (talk) 01:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Bailey, Martin (11 November 2021). "Prado museum downgrades Leonardo's $450m Salvator Mundi in exhibition catalogue". The Art Newspaper. Retrieved 12 November 2022.
^ "Sold for $450m to Saudi prince, 'Salvator Mundi' deemed not painted by Leonardo". Times of Israel. 14 November 2021. Retrieved 13 November 2022.
^ Cascoin, Sarah (27 August 2021). "7 Unbelievable and Contentious Takeaways From a New Documentary About 'Salvator Mundi,' the $450 Million 'Lost Leonardo'". Artnet. Retrieved 20 April 2022.
^ Zelazko, Alicja (April 2022). "Why Is the Salvator Mundi Called the World's Most Controversial Painting?". Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved 13 November 2022.

78.18.10.8 (talk) 01:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To justify "generally agreed", somebody had added references from the Christie's catalogue from selling the work, as well as well as art magazine stories speculating about the never published (and controversially withdrawn) examination by the Louvre. I have removed these are restore the "citation needed" status, which kind-of suits where the art world seems to be now (i.e. confused and with a very diverse range of views). I am sure that it will be properly examined in the future and a major examination published (and conferences held) to judge the consensus opinion (as per other Leonardo works). Aszx5000 (talk) 14:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Bailey, Martin (11 November 2021). "Prado museum downgrades Leonardo's $450m Salvator Mundi in exhibition catalogue". The Art Newspaper. Retrieved 12 November 2022.

[2] "Sold for $450m to Saudi prince, 'Salvator Mundi' deemed not painted by Leonardo". Times of Israel. 14 November 2021. Retrieved 13 November 2022.

[ArtNet-3] Cascoin, Sarah (27 August 2021). "7 Unbelievable and Contentious Takeaways From a New Documentary About 'Salvator Mundi,' the $450 Million 'Lost Leonardo'". Artnet. Retrieved 20 April 2022.

[4] Zelazko, Alicja (April 2022). "Why Is the Salvator Mundi Called the World's Most Controversial Painting?". Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved 13 November 2022.

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