Talk:Maison Louis Latour

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Proposed name change

I suggest changing the name of the article to Maison Louis Latour, as it is about the contemporary producer domaine and négociant business and not specifically (one or maybe several) persons named Louis Latour of this family in the past centuries. Feelings about this? MURGH ^disc. 14:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only just noticed this amid the excitement elsewhere and real life, despite having edited here earlier. Kind of in two minds to be honest - both the website url and the wine labels have (simply) "Louis Latour" as the key or stand-out name .. but the official name of the firm does appear to be "Maison Louis Latour", and, as you say, it should refer to the name of the modern business as opposed seemingly to an individual. --Nickhh (talk) 23:53, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I relate to the two-mind thing, but the official use of both short and long names seems to fall in line with practice of other estates, and at any rate this namespace as a redirect will still be useful. MURGH ^disc. 23:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Since the article uses terms such as "wine grower" and was categorised in Category:French winemakers (now corrected to Category:Wineries of France) it was easy to believe it was an article on a darn old person who'd been in the business since 1797 rather than about a company. By the way, this is the second time today I see the ambiguity between a person and a winery; Robert Schlumberger was first described as having died in 1879, after which his article stated that he today is one of the leading Sekt producers. Tomas e (talk) 00:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at the risk of being pedantic, General Motors and Volvo are both "car makers", despite not being individuals hammering away in their garages (how do you do those winking emoticons?), and "wine maker" can similarly apply to a corporate entity as much to an old farmer, but I guess we have a happy consensus between the three of us to change the name here. --Nickhh (talk) 00:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IMO the terms winemaker and car maker wouldn't be that different. GM and Volvo are car manufacturers, to estates being termed wine producers. Ferdinand Porsche or John DeLorean might have been car makers. You did risk some pedantry ;^) MURGH ^disc. 19:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doubt more voices will join, so with 2 in support and 1 either way, I'll do it. MURGH ^disc. 02:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't really say that I see the word "winemaker" as opposed to "wine producer" being used for corporate entities in current English usage. Tomas e (talk) 09:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed it's more commonly applied to individuals (and is quite a specific term when used in respect of the wine industry), but I wouldn't say it's altogether excluded from applying to corporate or collective entities. The "-maker" suffix or "maker" description for producers of all sorts is frequently applied to companies (eg "China maker", "carmaker", and, yes, even "winemaker" etc). Do I win the pedantry award yet?! Anyway, thanks for moving this Murgh - I've never worked out how to do that sort of thing, although I'm sure it's not very hard. It might be worth nothing that Louis Jadot also has the same issue. Plus that the entries for the bigger Burgundy houses are all very short, and some, eg Bouchard and Faiveley, don't appear to have pages at all. Nor does that bloke who owns a row of vines at the bottom of the hill in Santenay. If I had more time ... --Nickhh (talk) 10:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well if I'd known it was that easy. Jadot moved. --Nickhh (talk) 11:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And here I was enjoying compliments on my page-moving skillz.. Well done yourself. MURGH ^disc. 11:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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