Talk:Manufacturing in the United States

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Clearly, the statement "Since the entry of China into the World Trade Organization in December 2001, the decline in manufacturing jobs has accelerated" is not supported by the data. In particular, the years past 2010 show no decline at all in the share of overall jobs — a unique event since at least the 1970s! — and show an increase in the absolute number.) There is, however, an immediate, short-term decline, a one-time effect which does not support the unqualified statement "has accelerated". It is comparable to the effect of the 2008/2009 recession. But after that the decline rate is the same as before. Since in 2000/2001 there was a recession related to the burst of the dot-com bubble, causality is very much debatable anyway. Peter.A.Schneider (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Re-name? Re-write? Uncertain as to what this article is _intended_ to address as a topic.

I read this page and am left confused. I was looking for an encyclopedic article regarding Manufacturing in the United States. I believe as editors we must at least address the fact that — right out the gate — this article is far off the rails in terms of that topic. At best this is a falsely sourced opinion piece regarding the slight changes that have taken place in the economy over the ensuing eleven years since the _lesser-deflation_ (the name many economists are settling upon for the brief but significant blip in the mortgage-backed securities industry and shadow banking in the US which had a nearly global (but NOT global) impact for a very short period of time at the end of the first decade of the 2000’s.)

When a person searches Wikipedia for “Manufacturing in the U.S.”,the article they expect to get back would begin with pre-industrial revolution historical facts which then go through the pressures and movements in society and technology that had impacts upon the problem of making things for people to purchase and use. The ‘history’ should begin at the _latest_ around the 1800’s.

that’s at least the first thing we should address. Do we have a historical version to which we can revert that at least has the dates right?

RobbertMacGreighgor (talk) 02:18, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Badly out of date manufacturing figures.

The article gives manufacturing figures for 2021 - it is now May 2024. The article badly needs updating. 2A02:C7C:E183:AC00:60E1:9BC9:93D1:5E30 (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, this article is not protected so you are completely welcome to find newer sources and update it! You may want to use Wikipedia:Find your source (which I highly recommend) to find these newer sources. Lakwat (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Often this data is only released after a couple of year as there is a fair amount of work involved. So 2021 is not that out of date. But a lot of the other data in the article is much older. Generally speaking, the sources given will have more recent data, so there may not be a need to find new sources. In particular the FRED database can produce new figures and graphs with its latest info.--agr (talk) 17:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"the sources given" do not give more recent figures, it appears that their purpose is to hide the manufacturing weakness of recent years. 2021 was the year after the Covid lockdowns - it was a "bounce back" year and so a particularly bad (unrepresentative) year to choose. 2A02:C7C:E183:AC00:547:8403:1CE8:7098 (talk) 22:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Out of date information.

The article gives United States manufacturing output for 2021 - it is now August 2024. The article is giving badly out of date information. 2A02:C7C:E1BA:CE00:ECFD:26FA:DA85:66C1 (talk) 12:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]