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Not sure if I should tag this with "a major contributor to this page has an undisclosed connection to the subject matter", as the person who created this article admitted to being the person here and here as their nickname ("Dr. Kimura") corresponds to the name of "Dr. Kimura aka Mike Vann (Brazilian jiujitsu brown belt)". Also interesting that he finds his Brazilian jiujitsu brown belt to be more important to identify himself with than his academic works. Note that I am very glad that this article exists and Dr. Kimura has added reputable secondary sources, I just wonder if we should or shouldn't tag it with an appropriate tag informing this to the readers. --Donald Trung (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Trung: I believe you have adequately demonstrated that Mr. Vann created this page as a vanity page for himself (jiujitsu brown belt and all). The article is a seemingly endless self-fanfare of such detailed autobiographical grace-notes, totally disproportionate to Mr. Vann's notability as a scholar. (According to Google Scholar, his handful of published works have generated very few citations.) Mr. Vann clearly does not meet WP:GNG and per Mr. Trung's post above, this entry demonstrably violates WP:RS AND WP:NOT. So what, exactly, warrants the existence of such a biography--let alone one of elephantine size?
Wikipedia is increasingly overburdened with these academic vanity pages. I agree, the article should indeed be tagged with "a major contributor to this page has an undisclosed connection to the subject matter" or, perhaps more appropriately, deleted altogether. According to Wikipedia's own rules:
=== No autobiographies ===
"The one fundamental rule for inclusion of any article here is notability as established in third party sources. Too many biographies exist here on people who aren't really all that notable, but by "squeezing blood" out of their pitifully few "turnips", they end up with a biography."
"If your life and achievements are verifiable and genuinely notable, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later, but creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged: we want biographies here, not autobiographies." 174.208.96.120 (talk) 06:53, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]