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Requested move 20 April 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 10:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Ministry of Investment, Trade and IndustryMinistry of Investment, Trade and Industry (Malaysia) – While the current name is unique in English Wikipedia, the naming of the ministry is very generic and the country may not be clear to readers at first glance. The proposed rename follows WP:TITLEDAB. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed alternative title withdrawn since it would be inconsistent with other main title headers under Category:Federal ministries, departments and agencies of Malaysia. —Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 23:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support — match most other such ministries in Category:Federal ministries, departments and agencies of Malaysia. WP:PRECISION: seeking a more natural and recognizable title which is also consistent with most other articles. This is not a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Just like Leeds or M-185.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:RECOGNIZABLE and WP:CONSISTENT. There's no way that 99.9% readers infer what country the article is about other than reading it. Removing the country just because we can helps on one, and conciseness is not a virtue in itself. No such user (talk) 08:37, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The purpose of parenthetical disambiguation is to disambiguate from other articles, not to engage in speculation about what is recognizable or treat fundamentally different cases as if they were the same. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:TITLE: the ideal article title precisely identifies the subject; it is short, natural, distinguishable and recognizable; and resembles titles for similar articles. The only virtue of the current title is that it's dozen characters shorter than the proposed one; we do not have to "speculate" that no one outside Malaysia would not recognize it, it's just common sense. No such user (talk) 11:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Weighing of naming criteria still being debated. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.