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why no images of muhammad in "first" section?

i want to see what he looks like.. look, many articles that about famous ones has images about that famous ones in "first" section. but, muhammad dont has this? why? is muhammad a special person? what makes muhammad special? hello all. Modern primat (talk) 21:28, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

The consensus long ago became that placing images of Muhammed in the most visible / first part of the article was putting undue weight on his depiction. What this means is that depictions of Jesus, for example, are much more central and emphasized in Christianity than depictions of Muhammed are in Islam, that's why it's not prominently featured in the same way. Eik Corell (talk) 23:49, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

""putting undue weight on his depiction.""(edit: in fact, this is wikipedia policy, but i think im still right)(second edit: you wrote ""Muhammed are in Islam"" so.. we should remove all of his images? because it is forbiddden according to islam?Eik Corell) wow. so, that's show, muhammad is special person. but wait, you also wrote ""depictions of Muhammed are in Islam"", do we only use sources about islam? of course not, then we should use muhammad's image no matter what islam thinking. and lastly, for example, in hitler article, do we use his most used image by nazis? ----Modern primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 05:39, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@Modern primat: Eik Corell may be correct, although my recollection of the consensus was that the lead image should be representative of the way Muhammad is illustrated in Islam, and that is predominantly by calligraphy. So that is what we use. Either rationale is valid. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:20, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

""lead image should be representative of the way Muhammad is illustrated in Islam, and that is predominantly by calligraphy."" same reply to you, please look up.. i hope you understand my english.. to not put image of muhammad is not also about "neutrality". still asking same question: are we using just one type of source? just looking from islam's perspective is also "undue weight" Anachronist, Eik Corell----Modern primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 06:10, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

also, in arabic wikipedia, muhammad article dont has images about muhammad. is this a coincidence? i think it is all about "noo, you cant put image of him, noo, it is sin" ----Modern primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 07:37, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Although the last time I looked, the Farsi version does have illustrations. But "Islamic" here might be a little misleading - yes, Muhammad is most commonly depicted by calligraphy in Islam, but he's also most commonly depicted by Muslims, so it transits that he's most commonly depicted by calligraphy by humans. That's why a calligraphic representation is given the most weight. WilyD 12:30, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Maybe a good idea to put something in the FAQ, I'd do it myself but I'm not technically skilled enough to be confident I wouldn't destroy the formatting while doing so. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Q4 is what we have now. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Ah. I have no idea how I missed that, but it is definitely there. I am duly humbled. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 April 2022

Remove the false images associated with the name of Hazrat Muhammad PBUH. I read the answer given by you but still, no one is allowed to hurt the sentiments of so many Muslims just on the name of an encyclopedia. You should remove these as there is no need to add such images if you want to convey some messages you can add just text. The false images showing not any information just showing the wrong picture and some can imagine him as an image that is extremely bad. I condom your this act with all my Muslim brothers and sister.

REMOVE FALSE IMAGES. 119.156.27.38 (talk) 09:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Wikipedia is not bound by tenets of your faith. See Wikipedia:Content disclaimer and WP:NOTCENSORED. Melmann 09:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

disrespectful images

it's very heart wrenching to see disrespectful illustration of our beloved prophet (pbuh). Remove those because its prohibited in islam 203.101.190.27 (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

See the FAQ. Cannolis (talk) 00:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Picture Of Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

The Picture that are showing in the Article in the section beginning of Quran , which is quoting Muhammad (SAW) receiving first revelation from Gabriel is wrong and it's hurting Muslim Community and it's against Muslims Community because there is no picture of Holy Prophet (SAW). Stop it and Remove the picture. 37.111.134.218 (talk) 11:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

It is, in fact, an artistic rendering of Muhammad, and the Wikipedia community feels it is appropriate. If you register an account, you can set your account up to not display pictures of Muhammad. —C.Fred (talk) 11:45, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Images depicting prophet muhammad PBUH

The image shown > prophet muhammad PBUH receiving message from Gabriel should be removed . It’s prohibited in islam and hurts the sentiments of muslim community.. 169.149.193.38 (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Please read question one in the FAQ. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 15:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Depicting of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in pictures is wrong and it hurts the religious sentiments of Muslims across the Globe. Kindly stop depicting the Prophet (PBUH) in pictures.

14.139.231.177 (talk) 09:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Consensus, see faq, all that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Your attempts to force your religious restrictions onto others is wrong and hurts the religious sentiments of non-Muslims across the globe. Kindly stop doing that. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

No one asked. Besides, it's people like or similar to you who are trying to place restrictions to dictate what's allowed or not. Kindly stop doing that. 2603:6011:9600:52C0:299B:AFAB:8E2A:5C29 (talk) 00:15, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 September 2022

Please remove the Picture describing"his first revelation " and saying" Mohammad receiving his first revelation from Gabriel" because it will stirr anger and protests in Muslims. Waqas Ahmad Zia (talk) 15:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

@Waqas Ahmad Zia  Not done Please read the FAQ at the top of this page. It explains why we cannot remove any images of Muhammad. SunilNevlaFan✨ 15:17, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 December 2022

Assalamu Alaikum, I hope you and your family are doing well. Please remove images from this page which show Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) or Hazrat Aisha. I know there faces are not showing in images, it is hidden with white paint but please remove images because it is forbidden to make an image of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H), his family members and friends. It's my humble request to you. ALLAH will give you highest rewards, INSHAALLAH.

Best Regards, Muhammad Suleman Muhammad Suleman Hamza (talk) 05:47, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: See FAQ #1 for why we have the images there and #3 for how to configure your account to hide the images for your account Cannolis (talk) 05:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 February 2023

I suggest removing the illustrations of the Holy Prophet PBUH and the addition of "(PBUH)" and "(SAW)" as suffixes to his mention, everywhere in the article. I believe it will further reflect the Islamic ideology and context (in which the biography) should be written. In contrast, I believe that denying such requests and persisting the use of false imagery and illustrations of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)is a direct offense to Muslims and a point of misleading for non-Muslims who are reading or learning the biography.

Kindly advise and specify the page where this request will be highlighted and responded. Jazak'Allah Khair 103.86.53.250 (talk) 06:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: See the FAQ above. Cannolis (talk) 08:12, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I did read the FAQ above. However, it doesn't appear to have a neutral implication on how the biographical article/page of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is maintained on Wikipedia. Kindly advise on how the illustrations and false imagery depicting Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) can be made "hidden" in general on Wikipedia, i.e., for Muslins and Non-Muslims.

Jazak'Allah Khair.

103.86.53.250 (talk) 11:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

The problem is that you seem to want Wikipedia to be written to "reflect the Islamic ideology". That would not be a neutral style. Wikipedia is not written to comply with any ideology. Jeppiz (talk) 11:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

The problem is that the IP address may have read the FAQ but failed to comprehend it. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I find it genuinely intriguing how Wikipedia is quoted as the offending party here, when the images in question were created by Muslims in kingdoms/empires under Muslim control 100s of years in the past...--SinoDevonian (talk) 18:25, 7 February 2023 (UTC)