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Notable for one crime: the murder of Pamela Butler

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This person is notable in connection with one crime, that of the murder of Pamela Butler. The guideline WP:CRIMINAL advises that "A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person." and then goes on to advise the limited circumstances where a perpetrator would have a separate article. The intent of the guideline seems to be to write about the person's crime, rather that the person. This has a parallel with the guideline for biographies of people notable for a single event. Part of the intent of this guideline is to reduce the chance of having redundant content forks that cover the same subject in two different articles. In this case, there is a causal chain from the crime this person commits to his execution, and were it not for the crime he committed then his execution would never have happened. Several of the headlines of the various cited news report clearly refer to the crime when reporting this person's execution. This persistent coverage over time make the crime notable while reports of the perpetrator's execution can be seen as more routine news coverage, meaning the execution, alone, is not notable, itself, without the explaining the crime that lead to the execution. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameron Dewe: @NelsonLee20042020: I support the renaming of this particular article to Murder of Pamela Butler. What do you think Nelson? Inexpiable (talk) 08:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can still concede to moving the article to another title even though I prefer to leave it as it is NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 15:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 August 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. I will attempt to reformat the lead to reflect the change of scope, but feel free to edit it if you wish. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 18:45, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Keith Dwayne NelsonMurder of Pamela Butler – Per WP:CRIMINAL and for reasons stated and discussed on the talk page: [1] Inexpiable (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support. Sometimes with these death penalty cases the execution is more notable than the crime. This does not appear to be one of those cases, but it could be either way. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:58, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.