Talk:My Bologna
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Comment
[edit]This repeats material at "Weird Al" Yankovic without expanding it. Is every Yankovic song to be "covered" with a fragment? --Wetman 21:53, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
VFD results
[edit]This article has survived a VFD nomination with the result of No consensus (split between keep and merge). --Allen3 talk July 5, 2005 18:57 (UTC)
I'm surprised there isn't an article for My Sharona, and yet there is one for this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.64.188.255 (talk • contribs) 08:59, 11 October 2005
Not from an album?
[edit]This isn't true. This is on his debut album. --BlooWilt on the wikiprowl, later! 16:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, a re-recorded version appears on his debut album, but a rougher version that he recorded in a bathroom was put on the single. That's why it is written as not on his debut album.--Gen. Quon (talk) 14:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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Reviewer: HeyJude70 (talk · contribs) 07:22, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | Well written, only minor grammatical corrections to be made.
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One last note, do you have any citations that could be used to add the Genre to the infobox? Done
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | |
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | All citations are reliable, the Bibliography is well used. |
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2c. it contains no original research. | |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | All quotations are referenced. |
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3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | Also:
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | No edit-wars. |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | Both images used are in free use. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Also, the image of Yankovic depicts him after his image change. The song was written when he had his iconic permed hair, so if possible another image (such as this) could be used. However, if for copyright purposes this image cannot be used, the current image is fine. |
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7. Overall assessment. | There are many issues with this article that must be addressed before this article will pass the Good Article criteria. I would appreciate any other input, insights or comments on the review. ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 07:22, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Given that a week has passed and no changes have been made since the initial review, it is unlikely this will pass. The review will be closed soon. ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 08:25, 1 February 2017 (UTC) No effort has been made to correct these shortcomings so I am left with no choice but to fail this GA review. ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 11:09, 4 February 2017 (UTC) Review re-opened ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 01:53, 5 February 2017 (UTC) All points have been satisfied, passed review ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC) |
@HeyJude70: For some reason, I didn't get a message on my talk page that this had been placed on hold, nor did I get an update on my watchlist. I'd be more than happy to get these issues fixed today, if you'd be so kind as to give me the benefit of the doubt.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:20, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Some points:
- I have addressed/fixed all of the prose issues that you pointed out. In regard to why Capitol didn't promote the single, I'm not sure why that is. No source mentions a why, just that it happened.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- In regards to why the lead doesn't have citations, per WP:LEADCITE, "Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material." I have cited all of this information in the body of the article, and as such, I feel that it is redundant to cite it again in the lede. The no-citations-in-the-lede approach has been embraced by myself and used in nine featured articles. As such, I feel that there is a precedent for my stylistic approach.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- In regards to the info about Yankovic's background, I feel that this is necessary for this article, because it was Yankovic's first single. In addition, before the article starts talking about "My Sharona", only one sentence is given that sets the stage.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- In regards to the inclusion of CalPoly, personally, I disagree. He was a student at the university, and the radio station was affiliated with the university. Without a mention, readers might be left to wonder about the background and context for the song.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Gen. Quon: Hi Gen. Quon, I'm very sorry that you were not notified of the review, as I'm sure it would have been fixed quite quickly if you were. I would be happy to readdress this review, I am just not sure if I can use this page again as I have already marked it as a fail. You may know more about this than I, does the article have to be re-nominated? If so, I'd be happy to review it again. ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 01:13, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- ThomDevexx ॐ, I've just reopened the review for you; you should continue the review on this page. In cases where the reviewer has closed the review prematurely and wants to continue where they left off, you can just revert your edit that closed it, which I have done for you. The reason Gen. Quon wasn't notified was that you didn't formally put the review on hold; instructions for doing so, so you'll know in future, are on the GAN instructions page at Putting the article on hold. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset Thank you, a life saver as per usual.
- Gen. Quon The review is reopened and now 'properly' On Hold. I've updated it all just one little thing in the top box to be checked. Also, I was wondering if you had any comment on the suggestion for the image of Yankovic used to be changed? ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 01:53, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @HeyJude70: Thanks for opening it back up! I went ahead and added a citation to back up a genre tag. As for the image, I really would love to include something like that, but because it's already being used on the main Weird Al page, and because it's copyrighted, I think it's best to be judicious with its use and instead have a picture that's Creative Commons licensed, if that's OK.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:05, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Gen. Quon: Brilliant, pleased to see all the changes have been made. I thought that image couldn't be used, hopefully it the future an older one in free-use will be uploaded. Sorry for the difficulties with the review, but I'm happy to pass it now. Congratulations. ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- No worries! Thanks for giving me the second chance!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:43, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Gen. Quon: Brilliant, pleased to see all the changes have been made. I thought that image couldn't be used, hopefully it the future an older one in free-use will be uploaded. Sorry for the difficulties with the review, but I'm happy to pass it now. Congratulations. ThomDevexx ॐ (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- @HeyJude70: Thanks for opening it back up! I went ahead and added a citation to back up a genre tag. As for the image, I really would love to include something like that, but because it's already being used on the main Weird Al page, and because it's copyrighted, I think it's best to be judicious with its use and instead have a picture that's Creative Commons licensed, if that's OK.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:05, 5 February 2017 (UTC)