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Actual name and birth details

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Why do editors keep adding vague years of birth? Don't they read the edit summaries? See this now. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of WP:BLPSOURCES which states as a blanket-cover; "Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses."

I have not added the links into refs, but I see no reason to keep adding 1995/1996 when secondary sources are adequate - the actual day is not that important.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Her birthday is 29 August 1996 as is clear from friends wishing her happy birthday in previous years on Twitter. [1][2][3][4] --StoneKommittii (talk) 17:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She also tweeted on 29 August this year that she was celebrating her 24th birthday. [5] Ollie231213 (talk) 15:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Working class family?

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Her mother is a lawyer, which doesn't sound very working class to me. Most Labour MPs like to talk up their working class origins, but an encyclopedia shouldn't take this spin at face value. --Ef80 (talk) 11:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree that it's a bit rich (pardon the pun) to put so much emphasis on her being working class, when her mother is in fact a lawyer.

2A02:C7F:18AE:4900:7001:F557:C631:60FA (talk) 12:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia, we go by what the independent secondary reliable sources say: e.g. [[6]], [[7] both describe her as having a working-class background. Lawyers are not like what you see on television. They earn a variety of salaries and often start at approx £20,000. They are broadly speaking split into barristers and solicitors. Generally barristers earn more than solicitors and are those that are most seen on television wearing 18th century costumes with wigs. Generally commercial (property) earn more than crime or family/ social care law. Cowlibob (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your guidance. I had no idea that Wikipedia articles were based on WP:RS, or that UK lawyers were either barristers or solicitors, and that some earn more than others. However, the issue isn't whether Whittome's mother is fantastically wealthy, but whether a local authority solicitor can be considered a working class occupation like a coal miner or a shop assistant. Have a nice day. --Ef80 (talk) 15:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The reply regarding wealth was directed at the IP user. The key here is that she is defined as having a working-class background from multiple reliable independent secondary sources. You may not agree with that and have presumed that these sources have only focussed on an assessment of her mother's occupation but Wikipedia:No original research. Cowlibob (talk) 23:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What nonsense. Lawyers are not 'working class', end of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.123.60 (talk) 12:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]