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move justified with a misleading edit summary

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It seems to me this article was moved in a move justified with a misleading edit summary, namely: "The old name is mostly based on the older primary sources. The new one is based on the secondary sources specially the NYT's". This edit summary implies the NYTimes said it based the transliteration of the name it chose as the primary name for this captive after conducting some research, or consulting an expert. In fact, the NYTimes did no such thing. Every name the picked is one used on the older documents the contributor who moved this article has decried. It seems they arbitrarily picked one from among the several names. I regard it as misleading to imply NYTimes choice is different than the "older documents".

FWIW I have asked the contributor to explain why he called the OARDEC memos "primary documents", when they are summaries based on the independent collation, analysis, and summaries of other reports from other agencies. I don't believe I have received a meaningful answer so far.

Normally I wouldn't leave a note on like this on every page changed in a series of changes. Normally I would leave a note on that contributors talk page. But this contributor has requested me to leave the note on every article's talk pages. Geo Swan (talk) 14:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing misleading in my edit summary at all. The only misleading thing is your post here. I really wonder - Have you checked the new name in secondary sources? You can not leave messages regarding content issues on my talk page? That is wrong. You are welcome. You have done that frequently just in the last couple of days and i have answered you every post or question regarding content issues. Abour the OARDEC documents i have explained that to you here and never got an answer from you.
Could you please provide me with the sources for this name? And could you please provide with the rational that these sources are the most reliable one? And if multiple source had been use for the creation of this name. How did the editor who created the name combined the sources to come up with a new name and why did he do it that way. This is an ongoing event. More and more reliable secondary sources are now available. We should use them all to chose the right name. Thank's in advance. IQinn (talk) 15:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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