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Imbris

Didn't Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia just sue Serbia for genocide on the basis of it being the true sole successor of Yugoslavia, as well as being the reason why Montenegro was left out of the verdict regarding the Bosnian Genocide case, not being Yugoslavia's successor? Didn't the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia receive a seat in the United Nations, despite claiming successorship? Didn't in 2006 the Republic Serbia, internationally recognized, proclaim itself the successor of its state union with Montenegro and of Yugoslavia?

If Montenegro, Bosnia, Croatia and Macedonia do not dispute Serbia's successorship...should Kosovo's opinion be that relevant? (I do not know Slovenia's position) :) --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 10:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can draw smilies at your hearts desire. This do not change the issue. If you are anything your user page claims that you are then I do not know why you are so eager in defending something that has not got away with in USSR and Czechoslovakia.

Your entire "angle" is talking about some stuff that has no bearing in encyclopaedical work (when talking about sports or otherwise).

BIH, CRO did not put on trial Serbia as a successor but as a state which had been a part of Yugoslavia thus the international agreements must be upheld and obeyed. We can go in the direction of the Conference on Yugoslavia (supported by EEC and UN special envoy).

Montenegro has been left out of the equation because MNE and RS agreed this would be the case, but this is not recognized by all international organizations (funny ICJ agreed with this).

New Government after the regime of Miloshevitsch and its clique abandoned that policy in 2000. RS proclaimed in by means of a letter of Mr. President Boris Tadich to the Secretary General of the OUN that RS would continue after SCG - nothing more - nothing less.

Imbris (talk) 23:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um, this article is about National Olympic Committees. What the hell are you too arguing about? None of this is relevant here. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslavia does not exist anymore so should be deleted

Well known fact.

Imbris (talk) 23:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So why did you add it to the article? Bizarre. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 03:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Imbris, stop it. Now. --necronudist (talk) 08:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did not add it but left for someone else to delete. To Mr. necronudist - please refrain yourself from intimidating behaviour and stop your unsourced claims. I think this way is better Serbia in 1911. -- Imbris (talk) 00:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, still on same ol' attitude? :D --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 11:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still the same un-relevant Pax. -- Imbris (talk) 22:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Future expansion of National Olympic Committees

Is there any discussion on what the next countries (or whatever) getting official NOCs? Possibly Niue or Montserrat? --Paploo (talk) 22:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo already has a committee; they just need to get it recognized by the IOC. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And Macau has a NOC that is a member of the Olympic Council of Asia and competes at the Asian Games, so presumably it isn't a big step for them either. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And weirdly enough the Faroe Islands compete independently in the Paralympics despite being part of the Kingdom of Denmark, is there any possibility to become a full Olympic member? And does anyone know exactly *why* they can go it alone in the Paralympics? - TF100 —Preceding undated comment was added at 11:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should these be listed under Unrecognized National Olympic Committee. There is also a Tahitian National Olympic Committee --15:45, 16 June 2009 CK6569 —Preceding unsigned comment added by CK6569 (talk • contribs)

As far as I am concerned, the following NOCs are operating today, but not accepted by the IOC: Catalan, French Polynesia, Gibraltar, Niue, Kosovo, Somaliland, Macao. I am not sure about another two: French Mayotte and French Tahiti.Vulturedroid (talk) 03:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that French Tahiti and French Polynesia are the same NOC. Also, I don't know how real this is but there is a link to a Tibet NOC http://www.noc-tibet.org/ CK6569 (talk) 18:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The so-called Tibetan NOC exists and operates from Dharamsala, India. It is not recognized by the IOC. Vulturedroid (talk) 19:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article incorrectly mentions Aruba and Curaçao as dependent territories. With the break-up of the Netherlands Antilles, Sint Maarten and Curaçao were granted the same status as Aruba - separate countries (not territories) within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. While Bonaire, Saba and Sint Eustatius became integral but overseas municipalities of the Netherlands. The latter three would not have any possibility of an NOC. Curaçao and Sint Maarten would, as Aruba already has. Ptilinopus (talk) 05:16, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Aruba is a "dependent territory" in the sense that it's not a recognised sovereign state (I know it is a constituent country of the Netherlands). If Aruba splits or unifies with another territory, the International Olympic Committee will withdraw recognition just like it did with the Netherlands Antilles. This is why Sint Maarten and Curacao will also not be able to get recognition from the International Olmypic Committee. The only National Olympic Committees that are eligible to get recognition from the IOC are the Vatican City (they probably won't establish one) and Niue (who's NOC is an associate member of ONOC). There's a slim chance that Macau's and the Faroe Islands' Olympic Committees will get recognition considering they both participate in the Paralympic Games, Macau's a part of OCA, and they're both member associations of several sporting federations. Professorsolo2015 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:38, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

South Sudan & Kosovo - don't add without source

Someone has recently added South Sudan and Kosovo to the list of IOC-recognized committees (the latter more than once). However, there is apparently no source for either one. Potential recognition for both is reportedly being discussed, but there has apparently not been any conclusion yet (difficult to find any sources on South Sudan even having an NOC at all yet). If adding new members to the list, please cite a source! Even if not on the list itself, at least indicate the source here on the talk page. Evzob (talk) 18:08, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Association of National Olympic Committees (ANOC/ACNO) Association des Comités Nationaux Olympiques

ANOC redirects here, so there should be information on it here. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 07:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Holy See!

Where is the Theocracy of Vatican in this list? Nil info currently! 87.97.108.149 (talk) 11:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They don't have a National Olympic Committee. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pope-hopes-olympics-promote-peace-reconciliation-urges-spirit-of-olympic-truce-to-prevail/2012/07/22/gJQAbpgw1W_story.html says: "the prospects of the world’s tiniest sovereign state actually fielding an Olympic squad are slim". PrimeHunter (talk) 11:53, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose we could mention it somewhere, as one of the only two U.N.-recognized sovereign states without an NOC. Evzob (talk) 07:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania and Israel listed twice?

If we follow the introduction, which mentions that — Former states, nowadays non-existent (e.g. Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands Antilles, etc.), are not listed, only the current states derived from them (f.i. the Czech Olympic Committee representing Bohemia was created and recognized in 1899 already, later transformed into the Czechoslovak Olympic Committee and after the split of Czechoslovakia recognized again in 1993) — then is it necessary for Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania or Israel to be listed twice (eg. both 1933 and 1952)?

No other state is listed twice, so is it fair to single this group out for extra recognition? The date of most recent joining is the relevant date in all cases. Maybe there should be a separate section for former official NOC's? Amornoguerra (talk) 07:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

South Africa's listing is misleading

Simply listing South Africa at 1991 without any explanation is misleading. South Africa was a participant in the Olympics since 1904 but was suspended in 1962. In the early 1990's as apartheid came to an end South Africa was re-instated and participated at Barcelona 1992. Roger (talk) 11:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some clarification

The unrecognized NOCs section should be converted to a table with date of establishment, and I think a very useful second table would be for nations without NOCs at all, such as Greenland. Jmj713 (talk) 04:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed on the first point. The second is a more complex issue - Greenland and other dependent territories which haven't yet joined are no longer eligible based on IOC rules. It might still be useful though, to compare with those dependent territories which did get in before the rules changed. And there are two clearly eligible states without committees: South Sudan and Vatican City. Evzob (talk) 19:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's complex, and I wasn't aware of any specific rules. Do you have more information about that? I proposed this idea because I was actually looking for a list like that myself, and didn't find anything. I know Greenland, for instance, has participated in a few other sporting events, as has the Vatican. I wonder if a list can be compiled of such entities. I'm very curious, at any rate. Jmj713 (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The rule about not accepting more dependent territories is mentioned in the introduction to this article, and it cites this source [1]. My site has a map of all the countries/territories not in the Olympics (scroll down): Political Geography Now - Which Countries Are (and Aren't) in the Olympics. Evzob (talk) 00:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map of NOC´s

According to picture (File:ANOC (logo).png) where europe has blue ring and oceania has a green ring, make on this picture (File:Association of National Olympic Committees.svg) europe blue and oceania green. (I don´t know how to do it!) --Viliam Furík (talk) 14:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Cook Islands

Shouldn't the Cook Islands be listed under dependent territories? I know they are self-governing, but New Zealand still represents them in foreign affairs, and their citizens are still considered to be New Zealand citizens. The dog2 (talk) 22:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The International Olympic Committee treats it as a de-facto sovereign state like Kosovo, Palestine and Chinese Taipei*. The IOC has left the option for Niue (along with Vatican City) to develop a recognised National Olympic Committee after limiting new members to generally-recognised sovereign states. Professorsolo2015 (talk) 18:44, 12 November 2016 (GMT)

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Russia's suspension as a recognized NOC...

Shouldn't there be some sort of notation in this article that Russia has been suspended from the IOC and is now an unrecognized NOC resulting in their athletics not being permitted to participate in the 2018 Olympic Games. YborCityJohn (talk) 08:11, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Macau at the Olympics

Shouldn't Macau be officially recognized by the IOC and compete at the Olympics? Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 20:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you asking if it should be included or are you starting a discussion? Macau doesn't have an IOC, and our opinions on that are not for Wikipedia. Bkatcher (talk) 20:47, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It should be included. Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Guatemala NOC no longer suspended from IOC

I removed the footnote saying that Guatemala's NOC was suspended. Its suspension was "provisionally" lifted this past March [2], and unlike Russia [3], has no note about being suspended on its profile on the official Olympics website [4]. GeoEvan (talk) 23:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]