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Balance to article

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It would be great to see more info about the variety of art forms in enzed. we have film, music, theatre, new media, inter and multi-disciplinary areas for a start... must re-read the article again, but first pass indicates glaring needs; 'nz art is visual art' do blind people and musicians get ignored? what about kinethetics and texture? art was 'done' here as soon as Europeans arrived... ok I know, put my money where my mouth is and edit, but i'm an artist, both visual and aural, and I might be biased/prejudiced and have all my work cut to pieces, so how about someone else do it? the problem with that is that there hardly is anyone else with necessary passion and skill to run that gauntlet for this tiny country of ours.. i hope someone does though.Paul Moss (talk) 07:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agreed the title is currently confusing.
See Visual arts of the United States (Art of the United States redirects there), Canadian art, Art of Australia for comparisons. Seems that the non-specific Canadian and Australian articles focus on visual art. I would think we could avoid any problem by making the NZ article more clearly titled like the US example. Music of New Zealand and Cinema of New Zealand already exist. Lanma726 (talk) 01:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't object to the article being renamed, but the bulk of articles dealing with the visual arts (and sculpture) for each country are titled "Art of Country" or "Nationality art", according to Category:Art by nationality.-gadfium 05:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So for my (and maybe others') clarification, which of these should/will the article include:
  • Paintings (yes?)
  • Sculpture (yes?)
  • Architecture (not sure)
  • Film (not sure)
  • music (probably not?)
Once we have clarified this, the introductory paragraph (and maybe the article title) should reflect this. Lanma726 (talk) 03:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My interpretation would be painting, sculpture, installation art, photography, and other visual art media (collage, mosaic etc.) It should exclude film and performing arts (which also need work on their articles!). dramatic (talk) 11:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What about architecture (I'm thinking it fits in with the same group as sculpture)? Do we have consensus? Lanma726 (talk) 19:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think architecture, film or music should be covered by this article. Painting, sculpture, and photography are fine.-gadfium 21:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As said, I do not have a strong opinion either way. For discussion (see Fine art), what about dance? I do feel that the title Art of New Zealand is not completely accurate anymore (I apologise for being pedantic), worse yet, I'm not even sure Fine art of New Zealand or Visual art of New Zealand would be anymore accurate. If I am the minority, I am happy to shut up. Lanma726 (talk) 21:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully this conversation has happened somewhere else before on Wikipedia Lanma726 (talk) 21:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
hopefully.. I dont see how a title that is clearly top level and ALL inclusive can allow exclusion of entire sections of the subject, isnt it logical to have a top level article covering all sections with links out to each article that deals with each section in depth? or does wikipedia do it differently, maybe i missed something.Paul Moss (talk) 01:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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This article could well do with a heading on New Zealand art that has sprung from Duchampian influences and relational aesthetics including New Zealand art through the 1970s and into the new century. Please see: [1] [2] and Mark Amery NZ Listener March 2013 "Action Stations" P42-43

Please excuse the COI. Barry Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by B'art homme (talk • contribs) 20:13, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Article scope

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In a revision of the 2009 discussion on this talk page I feel the scope of the article needs to be described essentially as visual arts with the Australian art article as the guide eg: "made in or about Australia, or by Australians overseas, from prehistoric times to the present. This includes Aboriginal, Colonial, Landscape, Atelier, early-twentieth-century painters, print makers, photographers, and sculptors influenced by European modernism, Contemporary art." Although the Wikipedia article on visual arts includes architecture, video, filmmaking and design I suggest these are NOT included in this article. And also music and performing arts to be NOT included.

Articles I looked at for reference include: Canadian art, French art, German art, Icelandic art, Taiwanese art, Art of the United Kingdom, English art, Scottish art, Welsh art, Irish art. Many link 'Visual art' but do not include architecture (the French art article does.)

The current article I will work on to include some more current references. Pakoire (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article would be great to be expanded to have more content and links - feel free to discuss here on the talk page. Pakoire (talk) 03:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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