Talk:Outlaw motorcycle club/Archive 3
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Gross Overgeneralization
The section on other patches seems to focus entirely on wings. In addition to this, every source refers to findings of the same investigation of one gang (Mongols) but seems to infer that every gang uses these meanings, which is a logical jump and thus not verifiable information (as well as being one I know to be patently untrue, though I don't have a source for you so that is unfortunately irrelevant). I'd suggest the section be rewritten to point out the fact that these specific meanings (all sexual and somewhat mysoginistic) are all attributable to one group and that these meanings may not hold for other clubs, though other clubs each have their own coded symbols as well. Mongols are known to be somewhat more mysoginistic than many other groups, some of which are actually rather protective of their women.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.95.148.252 (talk)
One percenter
I have added an historic source into the 'One percenter' heading. It's not intended to cite any of the content so has been added as a general footnote. This article uses mainly 2000> citations, the majority seeming to have been derived from keyword searches, and both the content and references for one percenter are thin.
This new source must be the earliest genuine usage of the exact term yet; I have added it just to verify a definitive date, in the same way I added to Sleeper (car) and Rice burner (and again here).--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 03:28, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Throughout this article, there is no consensus on which term – "one-percenter" or "one percenter" – should be used. When reviewing many different dictionary databases, it's almost an even split even among the more scholastic sources. I did check out the website https://onepercenterbikers.com/one-percenter-motorcycle-clubs/, and they consistently use "one percenter".Borderbumble (talk) 00:57, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- That site onepercenterbiker.com looks like some random kid's website. Who wrote all that? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 02:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I wouldn't bother about whether the hyphen is present, as the sources themelves use one percenter, one-percenter and one percent so it's difficult to achieve conformity within the article when there are direct quotes present (ctrl + F). Despite starting with motorcycles in 1963, I had never heard of the term until I started to edit WP in the 2013> period. It's not a term regularly used in UK, perhaps understandably.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 15:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- The term is a non-standard construct. It's pointless to worry about the "correct" punctuation of what is a slang term to begin with. But, yes, it has little to do with motorcycle culture outside the US, until a very late period, the the 90s, maybe as early as the 80s, when US outlaw biker clubs began to be exported in significant numbers to to the UK, Australia, Germany. Before that a whole different biker youth counterculture dominated, and I don't think Americanophiles ever became all that common overseas. Russia maybe, with the Night Wolves. Anyway, I know there's a number of these websites like onepercenterbikers.com that purport to somehow be gatekeepers of outlaw biker culture, but there's nothing I can find that backs up their credibility. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I wouldn't bother about whether the hyphen is present, as the sources themelves use one percenter, one-percenter and one percent so it's difficult to achieve conformity within the article when there are direct quotes present (ctrl + F). Despite starting with motorcycles in 1963, I had never heard of the term until I started to edit WP in the 2013> period. It's not a term regularly used in UK, perhaps understandably.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 15:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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