Talk:Parinya Charoenphol
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Boxers change their names
[edit]I think Lookchaomaekhemthong looks suspicious as the name of the Japanese boxer as it does not seem at all like a Japanese name (or possible of being rendered in Japanese, as for other languages... It is not Chinese... I don’t know much about Korean names but it does not seem likely) and searches under that name turn up very little. The Nation (http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/02/27/sport/sport_20001636.php) uses Lookchaomaekhemthong as the name the Japanese boxer.--24.60.199.169 07:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- Very often, kickboxers change their names to the names of their gyms or trainers, sometimes for just one match. Anyway, that's what The Nation was reporting, and it's the only source I have for now. Wisekwai 17:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- As Wisekwai mentioned, many kickboxers (specifically professional Muay Thai boxers) use the name of the gym or trainer who taught them as their surname for the purposes of their kickboxing career. The name Lookchaomaekhemthong is a Thai name, and is most likely the surname chosen by the Japanese fighter (Kenshiro Lookchaomaekhemthong), reflecting where this kickboxer trained.
Should Nong Toom be added to the List of Female Kickboxers?
[edit]Should Nong Toom be added to the List of female kickboxers? She is a well-known public figure in Thailand and an accomplished kickboxer, but her transgender status raises an interesting question of which category she should be added to in Wikipedia. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.199.169 (talk) 07:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know the answer to this question. My personal belief (which has nothing to do with Wikipedia policies) is that transgendered folks should be grouped in the category of their choosing, and Nong Thoom has chosen to live as a woman. However, the regulating bodies for the sport she is competing in might have another view. She could be in a category all her own, which raises more troubling concerns for the categorists and list-makers. She has competed with male boxers, but has participated in exhibition matches with female fighters from different disciplines. – WiseKwai | Talk | Contribs 09:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Nong Toom just recently had a fight in Stockholm and fought against a female. I think she should be moved to female kickboxers. Davidson925 (talk) 04:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed.122.148.173.37 (talk) 15:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
No mention of the gym in Chiang Mai
[edit]In Thailand boxers take the name of the gym where they train. Kiatbusaba is a well known gym in the north-west corner of Chiang Mai. It is run by Andy Thompson. Can someone contribute more info about this period.
How to contact her
[edit]Anyone know if Nong Thoom has an agent? How does one get in contact with her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ElentariAchaea (talk • contribs) 01:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
worldwide tag?
[edit]Whats with the worldwide tag anyway? Doesnt mean a dmn thing to me and I see nothing whatsover wrong with the article other than perhaps some referencing (and the requisite facts may well be in the links anyway). (In fact I thought it was very well written.) If I come back I am going to delete the tag if there are no objections... 122.148.173.37 (talk) 16:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Edit needed for style
[edit]Could someone edit this so that it doesn't sound like its a heroic biography? For example, instead of "she realized her gender identity", write "Parinya stated that she discovered her gender identity when she was..." etc. Gabr-el 04:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
References to 'he' should be changed to 'she'
[edit]All throughout this article 'he' and 'she' are used interchangeably which is confusing and disrespectful. All instances of 'he' should be changed to 'she' even in the past tense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roseofwinter (talk • contribs) 16:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have just gone through and removed all references to her as "it" for the same reason. 81.157.75.34 (talk) 14:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Why? The article says he is a kathoey. The article for kathoey says they self-identify as males, "'kathoey' suggests that the person self-identifies as a type of male". Additionally, "Legal recognition of kathoeys is non-existent in Thailand: even after genital reassignment surgery, they are not allowed to change their legal sex." Surely, then, he is a he? Matthewedwards : Chat 05:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- The term 'kathoey' is one that is fraught with difficulties- her interviews make it clear she identifies as a woman, and her legal status is pretty much entirely irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.113.87 (talk) 00:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- Why? The article says he is a kathoey. The article for kathoey says they self-identify as males, "'kathoey' suggests that the person self-identifies as a type of male". Additionally, "Legal recognition of kathoeys is non-existent in Thailand: even after genital reassignment surgery, they are not allowed to change their legal sex." Surely, then, he is a he? Matthewedwards : Chat 05:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Semi-protection required
[edit]Somebody needs to semi-protect this page. The edits to change all gendered pronouns to 'he' are getting rather ridiculous. --Stealthy (talk) 12:32, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
He or she
[edit]Before operation - the person was gender-specific - "he". After operation - "she". It is not disrespectfull to use apply both sides to biography, because biography was a change. To draw analogy, it is not disrespectfull to call "tea" as water, before water became tea. Not doing this makes the article look awkward - a young male child that is referenced as "she". 217.50.149.129 (talk) 21:16, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, this is incredibly disrespectful. Wikipedia has an established policy on this: we use the subject's current preferred pronouns throughout the article. See MOS:IDENTITY. Skyerise (talk) 21:32, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, I am sorry, because I didn't know this is this complicated and did not intend to offend. Thanks for reverting and linking to the policy. 77.2.133.115 (talk) 00:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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