Talk:ProStores

I was the person that edit and created this article orginally. I'm trying to understand why someone thinks I wrote this as trying to sell the application. I figured since I deal with Prostores every day for my customers, I could give a good perspective on exactly what Prostores is and how it works. My info is correct and can be verfied as facts at either Prostores.com or Prostores Message board which is the board for Prostores.The Cleveland Browns are awesome! 17:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)2-Bar Quack

I also did delete the alert only because I wasn't sure how to get rid of it, once i realize that it had to stay for review, I followed the instructions of Wikipedia to make sure i put this on the talk page for this article.

I'm a Web Designer who works on well over 200 different Prostores every day so that's why I wrote the article the way I did, I described how Prostores works so that people would have the knowledge of it. Since the Shopping cart article wasn't even on Wikipedia, I figured i could contribute to this because of my experience with the application. That would at that point, certify me as a expert in the application. Now to check my credientials, you can ask me info and I'll prove my knowledge and degree in the field of Web Design. The article was wrote in a way to give everyone the knowledge of how it was set up and the different verison's that are offered. I worked hard on this article for a bout a month and will be upset if it's deleted becasue someone thinks i work for Prostores, I did this article of my own time frame and was not assoicated with Prostores reps at all. In fact, I never in the a whole article say that Prostores is the best shopping cart out there or anything that, I believe the article was subjective to the content it was wrote about.The Cleveland Browns are awesome! 18:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, I provide my own images that were taken from my desktop on a shopping cart application that was also created by me, I provided all the materials for this article too.The Cleveland Browns are awesome! 18:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The {{advert}} tag is not a deletion tag — it's a notice for editors to improve the neutrality and tone of the article. Sorry for the misunderstandings, I have removed your {{hangon}} template. -- intgr 18:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I had two different browsers open up so I thought that when I notice it was missing again, I needed to put it back on there again. LOL, I'm silly, thanks for letting me know, yeah, I'm not a writer, but a coder so I tried to make it as neutral as I could ,but again, I'm a coder, not English major. PS-I'll delete the Hang on again. The Cleveland Browns are awesome! 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about the "hangon" template, no harm was done, and many would probably react the same way. :)

A few problems I can point out in this article are:

1. It doesn't cite sources and does not establish notability; see Wikipedia:Attribution and Wikipedia:Notability
2. The article is divided in sections based on the different product offerings, as if it was a sales brochure (this is just an observation, not a direct conflict with any of the guidelines).
3. Points of view are represented as facts, e.g. "The Starter prostores's interface is simple to understand ..."; POVs should be avoided where possible, or when they are important, they should preferably be attributed. Please see describing points of view and neutral point of view.
4. Written in an informal tone; directly addresses the reader, e.g. "When you purchase anything"

I can't spare more time right now, but this should be enough to give you a starting point at improving the article. Remember to read or skim the relevant guidelines and policies. -- intgr 18:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I get what you mean, I'll be modify this soon so it should be fixed then. Thanks for at least giving me an idea of what the issue was before the page would have been deleted then I would have got angry. LOL, thanks man...The Cleveland Browns are awesome! 18:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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A.B. by editing the page you removed accurate data that helped balance the article. In justifying your edit you violated the following policy:

"Self-published sources may be used only in very limited circumstances; see above. When removing or challenging a reference to a self-published source, it is best to explain how it is being used inappropriately, rather than simply point out that the source is self-published."

The sources referenced were all verified ProStore account holders (store owners.) If these sources can not be used to create an accurate picture of ProStores, then this article will continue to be yet another corporate advertisement. Considering you based you edit solely on the type of source, and not the information provided, I am requesting you reverse your edit. 10:34 September 16, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cymbrie (talk • contribs) 15:35, 16 September 2008

OK, here's more detail: We have no way of verifying whether folks posting on discussionboard.prostores.com are who they say they are nor do we know if they are telling the truth. Furthermore, the roninkatana.com site you linked to appears to be your personal web site and you are never supposed to link to your own site. So this material can't go into the article. As I explained previously on your user talk page, if you have a different supporting reference that's been published with editorial oversight and fact-checking such as a news article, then by all means the material can be reinserted. See "What Wikipedia is Not": among other things, we're not a soapbox or a forum.

As for the tone of the article; I agree that it reads like an advert written by an employee, which is why I tagged it advert and conflict of interest with notices. I welcome someone re-writing it in a neutral tone using reliable sources. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)