Talk:Ramzi Yousef/Archive 1

Archive 1

Cleanup

I'd like to suggest that the article be put up for cleanup. There's lots of choppy prose littered about, and the article's flow could be smoothed out in my opinion. Also, there needs to be more sourcing of certain statements, such as the last sentence of the introduction claiming Yousef was a member of al-Qaida. Whether obvious or not, it's always better to have documentation. --Impaciente 00:02, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree that this article should be flagged for cleanup. There are stylistic and grammatical mistakes. Also, there is at the very least one very ambiguous line: "Adam's confessions led to a belief that he took part in the bombings. When he was convicted he believed that his brother had exposed him and made false accusations of Hassane's part in the crime." Who is "he?" It sounds like Adam is "he", but the third sentence refers to his release while the second sentence refers to his conviction. Is one or me of the "he"'s Yousef? Also, the "after the attacks" section should be renamed given Yousef participated in more than one attack. Also, I originally went to this article because I thought it was on Ahmed Yousef, the polical advisor to Hamas' prime minister. There should be a link or disambiguation page given that the Ahmed Yousef I was looking for just wrote an op-ed for the New York Times today (June 20, 2007).--Waveparticle 02:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Questionable Line

Quote: "After his capture, he had ranted extremist statements. His behavior afterwards suggested to U.S. officials that he was not a terrorist due to religious zeal. He expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause. He never visited Palestine."

YOUSEF identified himself as a terrorist to the US authorities. If you have a source for this particular line please make it known, otherwise when I update this page shortly I will remove that line (except for the Palestinian reference) and replace it with the evidence I have.

Removal of Line Mentioned Above

Quote: "After his capture, he had ranted extremist statements. His behavior afterwards suggested to U.S. officials that he was not a terrorist due to religious zeal........"

On page 368 of '1000 Years For Revenge' by Peter Lance the following is recorded:

"The government in its summations and opening statements said that I was a terrorist," Yousef responded. "Yes I am a terrorist and I am proud of it. And I support terrorism so long as it was against the United States government and against Israel..........."

In my new update I will remove the paragraph in question and put the reference to his sympathy for the Palestinian cause elsewhere.

Book quotes

I've removed the long book quotes, which were POV and unencyclopedic, and also removed Reeve's name from the intro, as I've done on other pages. It was added by 151.202.224.102. Whoever you are, it would be appreciated if you would stop inserting his name and long quotes from him into articles, as it's starting to look like self-promotion. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 10:23, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Philippine Airlines Flight 434

There is no mention of Ramzi Yousef's involvement in the bombing of Philippine Airlines Flight 434.

Philippine Airlines Flight 434 2

Seriously, i just saw a whole show about this flight and his COMLPETE involvement in the bombing. Why has nobody mentioned that in his profile? Apparently an attack on the USA is the most important thing. His name is on the page for the plane bombing, but no reference the other way. That is all.

• I must have seen the same show you did. I don't know why it isn't mention at all in his article. I think it is notable. If I have some free time this week, perhaps, I will add it in. - TripleH1976 08:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Philippine Airlines Flight 434 3

Considering he was the bomber, that's about as involved as you can get. Does anyone have the name of the Japanese businessman who perished in the attack? --Fluppy 09:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Just a note...

I removed the bit about Timothy McVeigh being executed at ADX Florence. He was incarcerated and executed at the Federal Prison in Terre Haute, Indiana. I am also a massive tool.Batman2005 05:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Fbi #302 Memos

This site http://peterlance.com/ contains relevant images

Allegedly

Why the qualifier "allegedly" (re: Bhutto) ? Did he or did he not ?

Information about his entry into the country

The entire section about pre-WTC bombing really needs some work. It's a bit disjointed and unclear. Especially unclear is the transition from Ahmed Ajaj being caught to Yousef's detention by INS (i.e. it mentions nothing about Yousef's initial lies about being Pakistani). From the article, it seems like he just showed up, claimed asylum, and was routinely sent to INS.

Wikify tag

All the sources are badly cited in the section I tagged. Since I don't have any idea what these sources are, I can't fix this myself. --Storkk 18:00, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Contradict tag

Was the "unidentified informer" Parker (as alluded to higher up)? If so, why is he unidentified? --Storkk 18:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed the Contradict tag, but I still see a blatant contradiction in:

1. identifying the informer as Parker
2. saying he's unidentified

I put the tag back, and any clarity would be appreciated. Please don't remove it again, without discussing here --Storkk 17:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Where exactly does it say 'unidentified informer'? The informant is identified as Parker throughout.

Ah, it was fixed a few days ago...

How old is Ramsi?

A basic question is missing..when was he born? where?

References?

Maybe I somehow missed it, but I looked and looked. At any rate, shouldn't the full refernce for these be in the reference section?

Please explain the full references for:  

Lance 2004 SAAG 484 2002.

Archive 1

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Ramzi Yousef/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Is Yousef Blind? That was the understanding when I was at Rochester FMC. wz51

Last edited at 13:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 15:38, 1 May 2016 (UTC)