Talk:Religion in Colombia/Archive 1

Archive 1

Stats.

Something doesn't add up. The article states that 2.6% of the population is Jewish, which would mean something over 1 muillion people. Yet the next paragraph puts the Jewish population at only 10,000. The Islamic population is also stated to be 10,000, which would be .02% (yet Islam rates a separate paragraph, on par with Catholicism with over 80% of the population).Pedantrician (talk) 00:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Pedantrician

Pie chart

We seem to be having a bit of a dispute about the source to use. The Pew Forum isn't ideal but is relatively reliable (certainly more so than the CIA factbook). El Tiempo «El Papa está preocupado por penetración de pentecostales en Colombia» does not seem to be academic in nature and there seems to be insufficient info to check it. Also mentioned was the source used by the Spanish version of this article (http://www.vanderbilt.edu/lapop/colombia.php) though I can't find where they got the figures from in that source (but I couldn't check the entire site). --Erp (talk) 06:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

The pew forum, better than Cia World or Latinobarometro?, jajajaja, its a joke. That's impossible, this percentages are from Latinobarometro (the religions in the time of the papa Francisco), and another survey by the barometer 2010, the information in pdf down the link, look better information before speaking, thanks--France et Europea (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Except your reference in this article is not Latinobarometro (and I've caught the CIA World Book in error in one other country). Give the URL of the pdf and ideally the page number of the pdf where the information can be found as a proper citations would do. --Erp (talk) 04:52, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

In contrast to the CIA factbook, PewForum 2014 tells us something about their methodology.

France et Europea: The source you cited is El Tiempo «El Papa está preocupado por penetración de pentecostales en Colombia», a newspaper article that does not support the changes of stats. JimRenge (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

The percentages in the newspaper article are from Latinobarometro, its hard to understand that?--France et Europea (talk) 17:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I was hoping she confused her sources given the amount of editing taking place. I note for instance the reference for Religion in Bolivia may actually include some useful info though I suspect the link, http://liportal.giz.de/fileadmin/user_upload/oeffentlich/Honduras/40_gesellschaft/LAS_RELIGIONES_EN_TIEMPOS_DEL_PAPA_FRANCISCO.pdf, is in violation of copyright (the original is behind a firewall though I have access). It has for Colombia: 75% Catholic, 3% Protestant, 8% atheist/agnostic/none, 14% other religion (page 6, it does look like latinobarometro may have switched the figures for Protestant and Other, page 31 is also interesting which shows 49% of Protestants and 52% of Catholics are active). Methodology is a survey with +/-2.8 error. I've included a better formatted ref (for the Bolivia info): "Las religiones en tiempos del Papa Francisco" (PDF) (in Spanish). Latinobarómetro. April 2014. p. 6. Archived from the original (pdf) on 4 April 2015. Retrieved 4 April 2015. --Erp (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

yes, I think your solution is better, so now stopped because this topic and I started to get angry, the Latinobarómetro i dont understand, in another source appeared to up than 20% in Colombia are Protestant, Greetings--France et Europea (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Except that for this article (a) your source, El Tiempo, doesn't seem to contain the figures you are quoting and (b) the Latinobarometro figures may well have an error (and they don't match the figures you are listing). --Erp (talk) 00:31, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Erp: yes, the Latinobarometro data for Protestants in Colombia don´t appear plausible. JimRenge (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

It should be noted that France et Europea is a sock of ELreydeEspana - a blocked user with a habit of making up entirely bogus statistics. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:20, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Second Pie Chart

I note the second pie chart using the Cely and Mauricio data is dependent on a limited not national survey so its figures might not be that useful for drawing conclusions on national percentages. --Erp (talk) 12:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)