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Images for the article: --Snek01 (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This image shows sexual dimorphism in shell morphology in the marine gastropod species Lambis lambis. Invertzoo (talk) 22:03, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move

I have moved this article from Reproductive system of gastropods for the following reasons:--Tom (LT) (talk) 21:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This articles is not just about the reproductive system, but also about reproduction.
Consistency with other "Reproduction..." articles

This is per a discussion at WikiProject Animal Anatomy here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Animal_anatomy#Reproductive_system.3F. Permalink: [1]

Note, we also have Mating of gastropods, which has an almost identical title. Thus it might be prudent to combine both articles into a single article that describes mating and the organs involved. I don't believe the increased size or article length would be too large to accommodate. --Animalparty-- (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Animalparty, that sounds like a good idea, invoking the principle of the lightbulb I invite you to to propose or boldly perform the merge. --Tom (LT) (talk) 21:34, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 January 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 14:03, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gastropod reproduction → Reproductive system of gastropods – I request move from "Gastropod reproduction" back to "Reproductive system of gastropods". The purpose is to be consistent with long lasting and stable other gastropod related articles: Circulatory system of gastropods, Digestive system of gastropods, Excretory system of gastropods, Nervous system of gastropods, Respiratory system of gastropods, Sensory organs of gastropods. The article consist of exactly what its name says the "reproductive system of gastropods". Its main purpose is just to describe anatomical terms of reproductive organs in gastropods - in this extremely variable group of animals. There should be ideally some image like this (commons:Category:Reproductive system of Gastropoda) in each gastropod species article and a reader not familiar with structures on those images should find overview and explanations in this article, nothing less and nothing more. If somebody sees in this article some broader sense or broader scope, that is because the article is incomplete, but it should focus on its main purpose: describe terminology and variability of anatomical organs of gastropods. It is completely compatible with the similar articles of other animals such as reproductive system, human reproductive system, human male reproductive system, reproductive system of planarians,... . For behavioral aspect there is a separate article mating of gastropods. Snek01 (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A move back to "Reproductive system of gastropods" seems like a good idea. Gastropod genitalia are very often the best or only means to identify species; from the point of view of those concerned mainly with identification, the important thing is to be able to recognise the structure, not even to know what it does. (I am not proposing that the article ignores function, just saying that this might be the less important aspect to deal with.) When contributing to species articles where I want to list the identification characters, it certainly would be desirable to link to a page that prominently and plainly explains the organs concerned. One could imagine a separate article about "Gastropod reproduction" which takes the morphology as given (because that is dealt with under the "Reproductive system of gastropods") but rather talks about hermaphrodite/gonochorist, egg-laying/viviparity, life cycles, sperm and egg production and storage, sexual conflict, etc. That still leaves the topic of "Mating of gastropods" for a third article dealing with behavioural aspects.Jmchutchinson (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Jmhutchinson on this. Invertzoo (talk) 17:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support; this appears to be consistent with other articles. Faceless Enemy (talk) 04:48, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support for consistency, and this is preferable to Reproduction (gastropod) or Reproduction (gastropods) per WP:NATURAL. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 07:26, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support move back to Reproductive system of gastropods, reversing the move discussed at #Move above. Andrewa (talk) 20:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge with Mating of gastropods

Appears to duplicate scope, so am proposing we merge the two articles, merging to "Gastropod reproduction", as this is consisted with other "Animal reproduction" articles Tom (LT) (talk) 05:50, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. At present I don't see much duplication. The article on gastropod mating is quite long (and there is further relevant material that could be added), so I think that incorporating it into the article on gastropod reproduction would produce something undesirably long and unwieldy. It would seem neater for the mating article to refer to the reproduction article where convenient (e.g. to explain the anatomy). Consider this analogy: rather than a single article on feeding, it might be advantageous to hive off one article dealing with foraging behaviour and one article dealing with nutrition and digestion. (Note: I research in this area, but have not contributed to either article)Jmchutchinson (talk) 19:25, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. On this question I also agree completely with the points that Jmhutchinson has made. Invertzoo (talk) 17:46, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Also agree with Jmchutchinson and Invertzoo and therefore oppose the proposed merge. Andrewa (talk) 20:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]