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This article was nominated for deletion on 5 August 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

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"If you only have a big bill, does one offer it and then accept change? Or if you do not want such service and it is pressed upon you anyway, do you still tip?"

This does not seem to be written in the style of an encyclopedia and should be removed. Also, most of the article is pretty subjective and no sources are cited (for example, where does the information about wage rates come from? Not to mention that these figures are going to be different for different parts of the US, let alone the rest of the world). I think paragraphs 3-4 should be either radically changed or removed, and some sources need to be included in order to keep the last paragraph.NumberJunkie 08:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this needs rework. It is written, it seems, from a North American perspective as Washroom Attendants have been around for a time in Germany for example.199.212.129.2 22:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)McKell in Toronto[reply]

I think that the term "Bog troll" is worthy of listing, or indeed it's own page, as its a common term used in the UK ( I think the most notable reference was a smirnoff tv commercial ), but it could be better written. I may try if I can find more references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilstevey (talk • contribs)

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World View

I think this presents a pretty global view of the topic, especially for its length, so I'm removing the tag. Add it back and talk here if you disagree. --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 06:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge of "toilet granny"

I support the merge of the toilet granny article into this one. A section on terms used for toilet attendants around the world seems like it could be useful Trxi (talk) 06:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. Defaults to no move. JPG-GR (talk) 16:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I propose renaming the article to "Toilet attendant", since "bathroom" used to refer to toilets is pretty much just a US-English term. "Toilet" is unambiguous in any version of modern English, and is more recognisable to non-English speakers. Trxi (talk) 07:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose. Leave well enough alone. We are not intended for non-English speakers; that's why all the other Wikipedias exist. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And my main point is that most English speakers don't actually speak US English. My referring to non-native speakers of English was pretty tangential. I do support the compromise of Washroom attendant. Trxi (talk) 10:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. To us Americans, "toilet attendant" sounds like someone who would be in the stall with you while you are using the toilet. Or at least to me it sounds that way. MookieZ (talk) 16:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about "washroom attendant"? — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 16:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
per Twas Now, use washroom attendant 70.55.86.100 (talk) 06:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to Washroom attendant, as both "bathroom" and "toilet" clearly cause confusion among native English speakers. --DAJF (talk) 08:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to washroom attendant - there are no baths in the "bathroom". Bathroom is a euphemism for toilet, and contains sinks with mirrors for washing, and toilet facilities. When you walk in there is an attendant who keeps the place tidy and stocked with supplies (I guess, all I have seen them do is collect tips). 199.125.109.57 (talk) 13:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Toilet is ambiguous in this usage. In the US, toilet refers to the bowl that you use. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move. —Scott5114 ↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 08:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Vegaswikian. Also, I would oppose a move to "washroom attendant", but would support a move to "restroom attendant". --Born2cycle (talk) 22:30, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

From above User:Trxi states: "...My main point is that most English speakers don't actually speak US English." What do you base this on? — AjaxSmack 21:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it may be true that purely numerically, there are more native US-English speakers in the US. But it also may be that the English speakers in the official English-speaking countries of Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, the Bahamas, Barbados, Bermuda, the British Indian Ocean Territory, the British Virgin Islands, Canada, the Cayman Islands, the Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Grenada, Guam, Guernsey, Guyana, Ireland, Isle of Man, Jamaica, Jersey, Montserrat, Nauru, New Zealand, Pitcairn Islands, Saint Helena, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Singapore, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the United Kingdom actually outnumber US English-speaking citizens. Not to mention the countries with significant English-speaking communities like Bahrain, Botswana, Brunei, Cameroon, Christmas Island, Cocos Island, Dominica, Fiji, the Federated States of Micronesia, Ghana, Gambia, Hong Kong, India (60 million English speakers), Kenya, Kiribati, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Netherlands Antilles, Malaysia, Malta, the Marshall Islands, Mauritius, Namibia, Nigeria, Norfolk Island, Pakistan, Palau, Papua New Guinea, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Rwanda, the Solomon Islands, Saint Lucia, Samoa, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Swaziland, Tanzania, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Zambia, and Zimbabwe. I'll grant you the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa and Puerto Rico, and probably the Phillipines, but frankly, I can't be bothered doing the maths to see who "wins".

No matter the actual numbers involved (and I based my initial assertion on the number of countries involved), I don't think one English dialect style should be privileged when there are "international" forms of English (if we're talking about the difference between "bathroom" and "restroom/washroom") that can be understood pretty much by all. Trxi (talk) 13:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

In America

The ones in the US don't actually do any kind of upkeep on the facilities. They just attempt to hit patrons up for tips for things that they don't need. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.160.118.174 (talk) 00:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Globalize

This article needs to discuss which countries are likely to have washroom attendants, whether in major cites or throughout the society. Reify-tech (talk) 20:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]