Talk:Robert Rossen
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[edit]Googles: --Philcha (talk) 12:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- Google ("Robert Rossen")
- Google ("Robert Rossen" obituary)
- Google books ("Robert Rossen")
- Google scholar ("Robert Rossen")
See articles on RR's films, etc.
General
[edit]- Robert Rossen (.filmreference.com) - w. biblio; by Doug Tomlinson
- Robert Rossen (NY Times) - short; who produced w RR.
- Robert Rossen (NY Times) - "longer"
Early life
[edit]Only scraps about Rossen's personal life. I Googled until I was blue in the face - and no bio of Rossen on Google. I even asked New York University, where Rossen studied, for help but they had nothing. A Very Dangerous Citizen: Abraham Lincoln Polonsky and the Hollywood Left (by Paul Buhle & Dave Wagner) says (p 249) "Rossen has no proper biography" - the book says Casty's book (1969) is the nearest to a bio. --Philcha (talk) 09:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Stage career in NY
[edit]Hollywood career to 1949
[edit]Communism & HUAC
[edit]- The Films of Robert Rossen (Alan Casty; Film Quarterly, Vol. 20, No. 2; Winter, 1966-1967)
- [www.manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/uploads/docs/FSTU7-5-.pdf The Hollywood Left: Robert Rossen and Postwar Hollywood] (Brian Neve; Film Studies, Issue 7, Winter 2005)
- Red Holly in Transition (Brian Neve; in "Un-American" Hollywood: politics and film in the blacklist era; ed Frank Krutnik)
- MacCarthysism ... and the Caper Film [Geoff Mayer; in Encyclopedia of film noir, ed Geoff Mayer, Brian McDonnell) - HUAC dashed social aspirations of new NY Jew film & theatre figures.
- What Was It like to Have a Blacklisted Father? (David Eliscu; Cinema Journal, Vol. 44, No. 4, Summer, 2005)
- "Un-American" Hollywood (pp 184ff) looks like paydirt. --Philcha (talk) 22:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Marriage & family
[edit]Career 1953 to end
[edit]Rest of life
[edit]Reception
[edit]- The Films of Robert Rossen (Alan Casty; Film Quarterly, Vol. 20, No. 2; Winter, 1966-1967)
- Red Holly in Transition (Brian Neve; in "Un-American" Hollywood: politics and film in the blacklist era; ed Frank Krutnik)
- The Method of Rossen's Late Films (Daniel Millar; Journal of American Studies, Vol. 6, No. 3, Dec., 1972)
- about RR rewrote The Seawolf
- A Change of Pattern? (Kenneth Macgowan; Hollywood Quarterly, Vol. 1, No. 2, Jan., 1946) - RR playscript
- Remembrances of Things Past (Lawrence Sturhahn; The North American Review, Vol. 264, No. 4, Winter, 1979) - asides re Lilith
- Films of the Year (various; Film Quarterly, Vol. 15, No. 2, Winter, 1961-1962) - re Hustler
- Abraham Polonsky and "Force of Evil" (William Pechter and Abraham Polonsky; Film Quarterly, Vol. 15, No. 3, Spring, 1962) - RR's contribution
- The Body Possessed (Dorothea Fischer-Hornung; in Embodying liberation: the Black body in American dance, ed. Dorothea Fischer-Hornung, Alison D. Goeller)
- A Fastasy Straight Out of Broolyn (Tony Williams; p 42; in The Brooklyn film: essays in the history of filmmaking, ed. John B. Manbeck, Robert Singer)
- The Vanishing Heroine (Stephen Farber; The Hudson Review, Vol. 27, No. 4, Winter, 1974-1975)
- Films beginning with B part 2 (guardian) - Body and Soul
Credits
[edit]- Robert Rossen (IMDb)
- Robert Rossen: Credits (Variety) - and stars etc. for each work
Loose ends
[edit]Can anyone help with any of these?
Marriage(s)
[edit](update - will update if/when out sources commented)
Robert Rossen (filmreference.com) says RR married Sue Siegel in 1954. The source is Doug Tomlinson, a researcher & critic, so I'd treat this as reliable:
- Guide to the Jay and Si-lan Chen Leyda Papers 1913-1987
- Exiles in Hollywood: major European film directors in America p. 233
- More than a method: trends and traditions in contemporary film performance Page v
But RR's son Stephen died 2007 at 67, i.e. was born 1940, see Paid Notice: Deaths: Rossem, Stephen, M. in NY Times April 19, 2007. At sometime Stephen wrote about the impact of RR's troubles with the HUAC, which is consistent with Stephen's being a boy at the time. On the other hand Ellen married in 1992 (Weddings; Ellen Rossen, Av Westin, in NY Times October 25, 1992). All this suggests Stephen was the sons by a 1st marriage in the 1930s, while Ellen looks more like a daughter of the 1950s. However, there seems no evidence of a first marriage in the 1930s. --Philcha (talk) 16:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Buhle & co's book & quote
[edit]At Buhle, Paul and Dave Wagner (2002). Radical Hollywood: The Untold Story Behind America's Favorite Movies. New York, The New Press. ISBN 1565847180. p. 386 - described as Rossen's "triumph and very likely his corruption". The only commentary I can find is Book Review: Radical Hollywood: The Untold Story Behind America, which criticises the quote as unexplained and the book as full of doctrinaire leftism. --Philcha (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Philcha (talk) 09:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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Whilst it does not pertain directly to the article, I was somewhat surprised by the statement (and red link): The Hollywood Writers Mobilization Against the War, a body to organize writers for the effort in World War II. The title "The Hollywood Writers Mobilization Against the War" seems to be a direct contradiction of the explantion "a body to organize writers for the effort in World War II", but as that article does not exist I can't check it. Pyrotec (talk) 14:23, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Lede needs work
[edit]The lede is WAY too much. Much of it is repetition of what comes later. Plus, it is chronologically perverse, starting off in 1949 then jumping back to the 1930s; it seems to be a lede that has its own lede. People who are far better known and had a far greater influence on the world than Rossen don't merit a lede that's anything like as detailed as this one is. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 02:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
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