Talk:Rossinver
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Etymology
[edit]The unsourced information that the name means "Wooded estuary" seems dubious to me, since Celtic languages always put the generic element of a compound before the specific element, so if it meant that, I would have expected "Inverross". I speak Scottish Gaelic rather than Irish, so I am reluctant to rush in with changes, but if "ros" really does mean "wood", surely the translation would be "the wood by the estuary" (i.e. the estuary identifies the wood, not the other way around). Apart from that, is it not more likely that this is "ros" in the sense of "headland", so we might translate it as "the headland by the estuary"? If you look on a map, you will see that just a half a kilometer north of the modern village (and a quarter of a kilometer from Rossinver graveyard) there is a finger of land jutting out into Lough Melvin just 200 meters east of the estuary of the Glenariff River. My tip is that the name Rossinver first referred to this promontory, and then spread up the hill, as place-names often do. --Doric Loon (talk) 13:41, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @Doric Loon: I agree entirely with your analysis and have added a citation to etymology per Patrick Weston Joyce, who I think is the scholar on such matters. Ros, a common component of Irish placenames, generally means headland, promontory or peninsula. I'd say the 'wooded' sense is minor. Inbhear, an estuary or river mouth, inbhir in genitive form. Hence Joyce's etymology. As for the geography of the place, that small promontory at the southeast end of Lough Melvin is distinctive and by the river mouth. Declangi (talk) 04:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Declangi: Now if I had known that source, I could have saved myself some time, but it's much more fun to work things out yourself and then have the scholar confirm it! :-) --Doric Loon (talk) 11:19, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Monastery
[edit]Kudos to the IP user who added all the information about the monastery. I do wonder if this ought to be an article in its own right, though? --Doric Loon (talk) 11:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- The IP additions do need sources. At that point a separate monastery article would work. Declangi (talk) 23:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)