Talk:Ruben Ramos (disambiguation)
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Requested move 14 August 2020
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved Rubén Ramos → Rubén Ramos (cyclist), Ruben J. Ramos → Ruben Ramos (politician), and Rubén Ramos Martínez → Rubén Ramos (footballer); not moved Ruben Ramos (disambiguation) or Ruben Ramos, per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria shown by Yaksar. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ruben Ramos (disambiguation) → Ruben Ramos
- Ruben Ramos → Ruben Ramos (musician)
- Rubén Ramos → Rubén Ramos (cyclist)
- Ruben J. Ramos → Ruben Ramos (politician)
- Rubén Ramos Martínez → Rubén Ramos (footballer)
– No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so DAB should be at base name. WP:COMMONNAME for all of these is just "Ruben Ramos" or "Rubén Ramos", without maternal last names or initials. Accented names don't disambiguate since there are multiple for each. Disambiguate to standard for all their categories for clarity. Ortizesp (talk) 04:03, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. No need for primary, middle initial or maternal surname. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 04:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm not seeing that there is not a primary topic. While I have personally heard of none of the subjects, the singer dominates in both Google search results (where he is described as a legend of Tejano music) and reader interest, where he is getting around 80 percent of page views.--Yaksar (let's chat) 14:48, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- The musician certainly gets more page views, but I don't think it's quite enough to be PRIMARY, especially when you combine the three other entries. And it's a little messy without disambiguation since his birth name and "Spanish" name is spelled "Rubén" not "Ruben".--Ortizesp (talk) 14:58, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Even when you combine all the other articles, you still get only about a fifth of total views, with the rest going to this one. What is enough then, if not 4 out of 5 views? We now have a number of !votes, all saying "no primary topic," but nothing beyond that, and none of the other names seem to have comparable long term significance, on top of that strong majority in page views.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:01, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think having 500 pageviews is much at all, and maybe some of the page views come from him being at the base name. I think either way the naming of the articles is incoherent as is, so better to review if he is actually WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after they are disambiguated. None of theses pages scream WP:PRIMARYTOPIC material to me.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:13, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Even when you combine all the other articles, you still get only about a fifth of total views, with the rest going to this one. What is enough then, if not 4 out of 5 views? We now have a number of !votes, all saying "no primary topic," but nothing beyond that, and none of the other names seem to have comparable long term significance, on top of that strong majority in page views.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:01, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- The musician certainly gets more page views, but I don't think it's quite enough to be PRIMARY, especially when you combine the three other entries. And it's a little messy without disambiguation since his birth name and "Spanish" name is spelled "Rubén" not "Ruben".--Ortizesp (talk) 14:58, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 15:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. No PRIMARYTOPIC. GiantSnowman 15:42, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.