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Minor correction
[edit]- The ammo for the forward 12-inch guns was reduced from 100 to 70 rounds each while the forward 130-mm ammunition was reduced from 245 to 100 rounds per gun in an attempt to compensate for her trim - it's related to Imperatritsa Mariya only.
- 28 May 1916 proposed to remove forward pair of 130-mm guns and their magazines and some other relocation at Imperatritsa Mariya and Aleksander III . 8 June 1916 such provisions were adopted but due the sunk of Imperatritsa Mariya it was implemented only at Aleksander III
- Fixed
- She used in one unsuccessful attempt to intercept Yavuz at 2 November 1917 – but operation was cancelled due the demand of the Svovobodnaya Rossiya crew to return to base. She leave Sevastopol as 2-nd battle squadrone (aircarrier "Romania" and Destroyer)
- Soviet Navy info is incorrect - flag should be simply red , date also seems incorrect
- How so? She didn't fall into the hands of the Bolsheviks in November 1917? Was the Soviet Navy not yet officially established in 1918?
- She sailed from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk on 14 May 1918 as German troops approached the city - incorrect date - incorrect conversion of the already New style date - ship departed at nignt 30 April/1 May 1918
- Fixed
- The ship was left in the hands of its crew for several months- it's incorrect - per German order same day after arival all ships were disarmed and only guards permitted to remain on board - see
^ Севастополь. Хроника революций и гражданской войны 1917-1920 г p.295
- 1 October 1918 - per 24 September 1918 signed at Berlin by Soviet representative Soviet Republic ships (including Volia) were forwarded to Germany control untill peace treaty will be concluded. Germans crew boardedJo0doe (talk) 10:12, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
*Soviet Navy info is incorrect - flag should be simply red , date also seems incorrect
- How so? She didn't fall into the hands of the Bolsheviks in November 1917? Was the Soviet Navy not yet officially established in 1918?(talk) 19:35, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- per Севастополь. Хроника революций и гражданской войны 1917-1920 г - no she fall to hands of Centroflot in which Bolsheviks was a tiny minority.It's actually hard to say who actually controlled Black See Fleet or exact ship. Official Soviet Navy flag [1] adopted in summer 1918 - when the ship was at Germans hand - so again per Севастополь. Хроника революций и гражданской войны 1917-1920 г was used red flag from signal flag set of Imperator's Navy. Jo0doe (talk) 16:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Ukrainian Service
[edit]This website claims the Germans transferred it to the Ukrainian government before the end of the war endedtheir puppet government and brought it to the White Russians. I didn't see anything about that in the article, is their any truth to it? http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/battleships/othr_dr.htm
GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:Russian battleship Imperator Aleksander III/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
I will review this tonight. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Here are the issues I found:
- My main concern is the naming. You note that it was renamed Volia, and use that name most of the article, yet the article is titled Imperator Aleksander. When was that name used? It's almost nonexistent in the article, ironically. Unless General Alekseyev and Imperator Aleksander are the same I'm very confused.
- Look at the infobox. She was built as Imperator Aleksandr, hence the title, and renamed before completion so she never did anything under her original name. It's also explained a bit in the first para of the lede. I've reworked it to better reflect the name she had at the time described.
- "but not arrived" tense doesn't feel right; maybe 'did not arrive' or 'had not arrived'
- Wow, that was ugly. Fixed.
- Nitpicky, but I'm not a fan of consecutive paragraphs starting with 'On (date)...'.
- Agreed, fixed.
- Scuttle links to a disambiguation page right now, should (i presume) go to scuttling.
- Fixed
- "while four were seized by Germany when it invaded Norway in April 1940 and captured them on board the Nina in Narvik harbor." Is nina a notable ship? The lack of a bluelink threw me off, so maybe it's not. Not a necessary issue for the GA rev, just curious.
- This incident probably makes her notable, but I don't know anything else about her.
I'll put the article on hold for a few days and pass it when the issues are fixed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good now, so the article passes. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 13:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
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