Talk:Scwʼexmx
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Institutional usage
[edit]Other than the basic ethno-history references also provided, there are a few institutional/commercial uses of this name:
- Scw'exmx Language Authority
- Scw'Exmx Community Health Service Society - website
- Scw'Exmx Child and Family Services Society
- might be company names, i.e. companies owned by the band(s)
- http://www.scwexmx.com exists but yields "forbidden" when I tried it.
Of the above listings, the language authority is maybe most deserving of an article, as with other language authorities around the province; Scw'Exmx Health and other FN health services are not part of the Health Regions of British Columbia system; they maybe all need articles.Skookum1 (talk) 14:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Re this, I've been taught to say that by a local elder/shaman during a visit there in 2011 whom I consulted, as hooked up by some schoolteacher friends who know him. I'm sure that /t/ should be a /k/. Don't know where else we could find a cite for that, perhaps from the band government or Nicola Tribal Association.Skookum1 (talk) 02:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- That makes a lot more sense. I was wondering how that pronunciation could possibly correspond to that spelling. It's probably a transcription error in the source I found. I will change it; I don’t think anyone will complain about the article not matching the source 100%. Indefatigable (talk) 02:20, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- I wish I had a recording of him saying it; there's a glottal-stop-kinda-thingy on the end of the name, as also with Secwepemc and Nlaka'pamux (but not St'at'imc; which is more just "Slatliumh"); the ministry version is simplified I'm sure. Hoping to recruit someone from the Nicola Valley, native or otherwise, to help out with stuff like this; there's a username NicolaValley or something on the Talk:Nicola Valley page history I think.....hmmmm. Sx'exnx is another one in there that looks boggling but comes out simple....Skookum1 (talk) 07:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, whenever a name is used in two languages that have very different phoneme repertoires, it's going to sound a lot different in the two languages. The English pronunciation we give in Wikipedia is going to be limited to English sounds, the way monolingual English speakers say the name. Glottal stops are kinda border line: they do exist in English, but most English speakers are not really aware of them, and some have difficulty producing them on demand (even though they use them in their speech). Indefatigable (talk) 13:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- I wish I had a recording of him saying it; there's a glottal-stop-kinda-thingy on the end of the name, as also with Secwepemc and Nlaka'pamux (but not St'at'imc; which is more just "Slatliumh"); the ministry version is simplified I'm sure. Hoping to recruit someone from the Nicola Valley, native or otherwise, to help out with stuff like this; there's a username NicolaValley or something on the Talk:Nicola Valley page history I think.....hmmmm. Sx'exnx is another one in there that looks boggling but comes out simple....Skookum1 (talk) 07:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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