Talk:Sergio Verdú

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The Sexual Harassment section should be updated to indicate that Verdu was dismissed from the Princeton faculty following a University investigation. [1] Verdu's affiliation with Princeton University should also be updated in the opening section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.238.142 (talk) 09:20, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Review and comments by other editors welcomed Fellow007 (talk) 17:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Thajdkakdjfakjkaj, 173.72.39.36, and 71.202.181.24: See my message to David Eppstein.

@David Eppstein: This message is for the editor David Eppsten from University of California Irvine. You are required to inform me and other editors of your changes before you change them and to seek consensus. Removing large contents from the article without seeking consensus is a unilateral move and not in line with Wikipedia. You need to have a discussion with other editors first. Although I have not undo your actions, I am communicating with you and other editors first.

Your changes include removing this whole paragraph:

For the concerns, anxiousness, fear, and safety for other female students on campus, there was a recent call for Sergio to be terminated at Princeton University.^[1]. The article stated that Sergio has shown that he is unrepentant for his act. A petition, with over 750 signees has been put forward to Princeton University President Christopher L. Eisgruber and open to all students to sign and make their voices, asking for severe punishment on Professor Sergio Verdu for his sexual harrassment act.^[2]

and you have rewritten (reduced) the section and removing specific sentences without explanation from the original paragrah:

On November 9, 2017, the Huffington Post made public the findings of a title IX investigation at Princeton University involving Verdú, which concluded on June 9, 2017. The investigation found Verdú "responsible for Sexual Harassment, which is a violation of the University’s policy on Sex Discrimination and Sexual Misconduct". The complainant was an international graduate student from South Korea, who Verdú was advising at the time. According to the student, Verdú was only required to attend an 8-hour training session despite having been found responsible for sexual harassment. The student changed advisers and research topic. A university spokesperson denied the claim that additional training was the only consequence for Verdú, stating that "penalties were imposed in addition to the required counseling", but did not specify those penalties. According to the Princeton Dean of Faculty who adjudicated the title IX decision, there were "a broader set of allegations" of harassment made by others against Verdú, but only the one student was willing to make a formal complaint. Verdú, in a response included in the Huffington Post article, denied the findings of the title IX investigation, stating: "The university advised me not to reply but I categorically deny that there were any advances or any sexual harassment.

and removing these references:

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Please use this talk page to discuss with me and other editors. Thanks. Fellow007 (talk) 17:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

My edits were based on WP:PROPORTION (this incident should be mentioned in the article, but not far out of balance with the other many notable aspects of the subject), but even more strongly per WP:BLP, particularly WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPPRIMARY. A student newspaper is a dubious source for anything, an editorial in a newspaper is not generally usable for a BLP, and an editorial in a student newspaper combines the worst of both. And the petition is purely a primary source for itself. We have good sources for this incident; we don't need to pile on the bad ones. See also WP:TOOMANYREFS. As for your suggestion that I need to have a discussion first, before doing anything: no. See WP:BRD. We can have a discussion now, but there was nothing even slightly wrong with doing things unilaterally prior to having that discussion. (It doesn't help that some anonymous editor keeps trying to remove the incident from the article altogether, or to move it far down where it will be much less noticable; I don't support those changes. See discussion at User talk:David Eppstein#Sergio Verdu's Bio.) —David Eppstein (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (Summoned by bot) RFC is not clear as to what we are supposed to be commenting on. L3X1 (distænt write) 17:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not an RfC; it does not ask the community a question, and is entirely non-neutral even if it did so. I've removed the RfC tag. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ< 05:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Terminate the professor who committed sexual harassment, by Ryan Born, The Daily Princetonian, Nov 16, 2017".

[2] "Petition to Princeton University administration regarding the Verdú sexual harassment case, The Daily Princetonian, Nov 20, 2017".

[3] Spensley, Allie (November 14, 2017), "U. Title IX investigation finds Verdu guilty of sexual harassment", The Daily Princetonian

[4] "Read Professor Verdu's emails to student where he invites her over to watch explicit film before sexually harassing her - The Tab by Harry Shukman".

[5] "Inside the Ivy: Princeton prof accused of sexual harassment gets light treatment. Uloop College News Nov 2017".

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