Talk:Sex (The 1975 EP)/GA1

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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 04:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Mine! Expect my first comments to be up within a few days. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

In the immortal words of Salt-N-Pepa: Let's talk about Sex (The 1975 EP), baby! Giacobbe ^talk 12:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Beginning with the infobox and lead now:

Infobox

• File:Sex (EP) by The 1975.png has an appropriate FUR
• Per MOS:FONTSIZE, you shouldn't have the text appear smaller than it naturally would, especially in places like infoboxes. That just needlessly makes it harder on the eyes to read for no good reason.  Done
• Template:Infobox album (which also applies for EPs) says to just use the earliest known release date. Reissues or other releases should instead be saved for article prose. I'm not sure whether this is a case where including multiple durations is justified since the field just tends to include whatever the standard edition's length is.  Done

Lead

• "musically divided between its first and second halves" → "musically divided into two halves"  Done
• To avoid starting two consecutive sentences with "the", you could have "The first half" become "Its first half".  Done

I'll be back with additional comments later. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:06, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: Sounds good! Giacobbe ^talk 12:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Development and release

• File:Brian Eno - TopPop 1974 09.png is perfectly fine to use

• @SNUGGUMS: I ended up changing the photo of Eno as well. I like the consistency of B&W vs. colour. Giacobbe ^talk 12:40, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

• In that case, no qualms with File:Brian Eno 2015.png or File:Positivus 2013 Sigur Ros (9824908964).jpg. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

• I'm getting a 404 error when checking the file source for File:Sigur Rós, Victoria Park, London (Citadel Festival) (28374258661).jpg. Either fix its link or use a different image.  Done
• This doesn't mention a specific month for the band forming, only says that it happened in 2012  Done
• "being in really underground bands -where the world of mainstream radio and media" uses a hyphen between "bands" and "where", not an ellipsis like you currently have  Done

Hopefully I can get all of "Composition" assessed in one go once I'm able to continue. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Composition

Music and lyrics

• This only mentions R&B and emo for genres

• Nylon said the music is "rock'n'roll that's meant to be played in big spaces". Giacobbe ^talk 12:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
• This mentioned the band developing "a clever mix of R&B, electro and pop". The interviewer incorrectly referred to Sex as the band's first release, so it can be assumed they are classifying the EP as rooted in these genres. I understand this one is more iffy, so I can change if you feel differently. Giacobbe ^talk 12:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Songs

• No concerns with File:The 1975 - Undo.ogg
• "electro-influenced electronic" sounds repetitive
• Unless I'm missing something, none of the attributed refs describe "Intro/Set3" or "Undo" as pop. Either way, "cut up" shouldn't be hyphenated, and I don't see support for the latter being "futuristic" or "1990s-style" within what was used.

• DIY mentions the first two songs (i.e. "Intro" and "Undo") as "...overtly electronic hazy pop songs". Consequence also refers to the latter as a "a pleasant, hazy pop song". Giacobbe ^talk 12:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
• This source deems "Undo" "some sort of chillwaving future R’n’B". Giacobbe ^talk 12:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
• QRO characterized "Undo" as a "a pleasant '90s R&B slow jam". Giacobbe ^talk 12:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

• Sorry to nitpick, but nothing found on "Undo" having "electronic synths"

• HTF said it "follows a similar suit with the electronic/synth vibe". I interpreted this as electronic synth (like when writers call pop-rock pop/rock). If not specific enough, I can remove. Giacobbe ^talk 12:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

• Vulture only gives emo-rock for the title track, and none of the provided URLs say anything about having "minimal synths"

• In writing the article for the song itself, I was able to add some more sources and rewrite this section. Giacobbe ^talk 12:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
• Regarding the "synths" part, HTF wrote: "Although there is a hint of synth work to be heard, these are mainly kept to a minimum." I just paraphrased/condensed this statement down to "minimal synths". Giacobbe ^talk 12:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

• No discussion of "Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You"?

• Unfortunately, I could not find any (reliable) sources that discuss the track. It is truly at the very bottom of their catalogue. I could add a mention about how the original version later appears on The 1975? Giacobbe ^talk 12:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

After "Critical reception", the rest should be a breeze! SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: Beauty! Giacobbe ^talk 12:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Critical reception

• I recommend expanding the section with reviews from Music Feeds as well as Nothing But Hope and Passion

• @SNUGGUMS: I added the NBHAP review. Regarding the Music Feeds one, that is for The 1975, are you recommending I add reviews for the individual songs? Giacobbe ^talk 16:47, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

• My bad on Music Feeds; I saw a "Sex" portion and thought that was about the EP. NBAHP is sufficient. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

• Avoid using "noting" or "noted" here since that can come off as treating opinionated statements like facts. It would be better to opt for other things such as "saying/said", "stating/stated", "writing/wrote", or "asserting/asserted".
• Since the "great deal of promise" bit seems to apply to everything except "You", I'd rework that sentence to make it more specific how Martyn Young found that track to be a disappointment.
• "Whining" actually isn't used here in that form (I instead found "whine", "whines", "whined", and "whiner")

Track listing

• Not sure why Crossey is singled out as an "additional producer" when the band also produced "Sex" and "You" along with Micheal and Robert Coles

• In the vinyl sleeve, The 1975 and the Coles brothers are listed as responsible for "Production" of those songs, while Crossey is titled "Additional Production". From my (own) understanding, it appears that Crossey was brought in to "tweak" these songs for Sex, before completely re-recording the title track for The 1975. Giacobbe ^talk 16:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

References

• How trustworthy is "Brightest Young Things"? That publication isn't something I'm familiar with.

• It's an online magazine catered toward the "hipster" crowd. Seems decent for the context of the article and has been referenced by The New York Times. Giacobbe ^talk 17:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

• I can't tell for sure whether "Golden Plec" should have italics.

• It's a magazine. Giacobbe ^talk 17:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Overall

• Prose: Nearly there
• Referencing: A possible formatting issue, and one reference of uncertain reliability
• Coverage: "Critical reception" could be a bit longer
• Neutrality: The tone used for reviews isn't quite up to par
• Stability: Zero concerns here
• Media: Every file has appropriate licensing
• Verdict: On hold for seven days. I have no doubt you can fix it up enough within that timeframe. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:21, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

• @SNUGGUMS: Let me know what you think! Giacobbe ^talk 17:21, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

• It's now ready to become GA. Now passing! SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.